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Mtl to offersheet Marner at 12M book it

Created by: a1111
Initial Creation Date: May 30, 2019
Published: May 30, 2019 at 4:42 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Toronto will match and be a disaster but here the proof it fit under cap if they don't match .
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell7$12,000,000
Armia, Joel1$2,000,000
Lehkonen, Artturi1$1,800,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell$16,800,000
2020 1st round pick
2021 1st round pick
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
MTL
MTL
CBJ
MTL
MTL
ARI
CHI
EDM
MTL
WPG
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
WPG
MTL
MTL
MTL
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$82,693,809$0$2,675,000$306,191
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Marner, Mitchell
$12,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$1,800,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Ouellet, Xavier
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1

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May 30, 2019 at 4:48
#1
Mitch Marner's Dad
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Never. If MTL offersheets Marner for 12 mil, he's yours. Thanks for the 4 firsts. Also growing up a Leaf fan his whole life, he's not signing in MTL... sorry.
May 30, 2019 at 4:51
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12M makes you change your mind...

ask freaking Max Domi - you know... the kid who spent his whole childhood IN the leaf's dressing room...
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May 30, 2019 at 4:51
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How many midgets do you want on one team?
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May 30, 2019 at 4:59
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Mitch Marner's Dad
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Quoting: Birtle34
How many midgets do you want on one team?


tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy
May 30, 2019 at 5:00
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Quoting: Birtle34
How many midgets do you want on one team?


i'll take 12 Marner up front with 6 on defense and , of course , Carey in nets .
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May 30, 2019 at 5:01
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
12M makes you change your mind...

ask freaking Max Domi - you know... the kid who spent his whole childhood IN the leaf's dressing room...


He was traded... he didn't have a choice.

And it's not like Marner would be getting pennies from the leafs. It would hardly be any different. 8 years at 10.5 is barely different than 7 at 12... it's the same contract value just one extra year to pay it out.
May 30, 2019 at 5:03
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Quoting: dzad96
He was traded... he didn't have a choice.

And it's not like Marner would be getting pennies from the leafs. It would hardly be any different. 8 years at 10.5 is barely different than 7 at 12... it's the same contract value just one extra year to pay it out.


Ya, and Bergeron, a guy from Québec still signed with BOS... money is king my friend
May 30, 2019 at 5:06
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We take them 1sts and start to build D : https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1190277
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May 30, 2019 at 5:06
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Ya, and Bergeron, a guy from Québec still signed with BOS... money is king my friend


You're delusional. IT'S DIFFERENT. Bergeron did not leave Montreal to sign with Boston for an extra 1 mil. He was already in Boston, loved the city, on an amazing team, why would he leave? Just like Marner, he's on a good team, in a city he loves, AND playing for a team he loves. So why would he leave?

Your Bergeron comment strengthens my point if anything, he took a discount to stay where he was happy. Nice try tho.
May 30, 2019 at 5:10
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Quoting: dzad96
You're delusional. IT'S DIFFERENT. Bergeron did not leave Montreal to sign with Boston for an extra 1 mil. He was already in Boston, loved the city, on an amazing team, why would he leave? Just like Marner, he's on a good team, in a city he loves, AND playing for a team he loves. So why would he leave?

Your Bergeron comment strengthens my point if anything, he took a discount to stay where he was happy. Nice try tho.


It's okay to be emotional about your favorite player leaving... but the problem is that your beloved leaf are considerably f*cked if they do.

do you think you will go further in the playoff... with your top 4 in D gone... and with Kapanen or Johnsson gone? Without any prospect readily available to fill their shoes?
May 30, 2019 at 5:11
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Quoting: dzad96
You're delusional. IT'S DIFFERENT. Bergeron did not leave Montreal to sign with Boston for an extra 1 mil. He was already in Boston, loved the city, on an amazing team, why would he leave? Just like Marner, he's on a good team, in a city he loves, AND playing for a team he loves. So why would he leave?

Your Bergeron comment strengthens my point if anything, he took a discount to stay where he was happy. Nice try tho.


Please keep him the whole point is to put a division rival in cap hell . Carefull for what you wish .
May 30, 2019 at 5:13
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Quoting: a1111
Please keep him the whole point is to put a division rival in cap hell . Carefull for what you wish .


Cause TML will match ? i mean, comeon.....
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May 30, 2019 at 5:14
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
It's okay to be emotional about your favorite player leaving... but the problem is that your beloved leaf are considerably f*cked if they do.

do you think you will go further in the playoff... with your top 4 in D gone... and with Kapanen or Johnsson gone? Without any prospect readily available to fill their shoes?


Way to come back with a non factual argument, typical internet troll. Under what circumstances is any of what your suggesting going to happen? Explain to me how the Leafs are ****ed if Marner leaves and they get 4 1st round picks? and if he stays it'll be for 10.5 or less (given the compensation structure https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1192184) The leafs aren't "f*cked" in any way. But I would love to hear a delusional habs fan perspective on how they are.
May 30, 2019 at 5:17
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Quoting: Laudan
Cause TML will match ? i mean, comeon.....


allright let's roll with him ! Im happy to go see his talent at the ring . Have a nice day .
May 30, 2019 at 5:19
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allright let's roll with him ! Im happy to go see his talent at the ring . Have a nice day .


We are fine without him also : https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1190277
May 30, 2019 at 5:21
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Quoting: dzad96
Way to come back with a non factual argument, typical internet troll. Under what circumstances is any of what your suggesting going to happen? Explain to me how the Leafs are ****ed if Marner leaves and they get 4 1st round picks? and if he stays it'll be for 10.5 or less (given the compensation structure https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1192184) The leafs aren't "f*cked" in any way. But I would love to hear a delusional habs fan perspective on how they are.


Sign him for 10.5M... and you bought you V12 without a transmission nor gas.

- I'm telling you, trading Marner for a big package is probably the best thing for the leafs. Kakko or another great prospect on an ELC could be great.
May 30, 2019 at 5:25
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Sign him for 10.5M... and you bought you V12 without a transmission nor gas.

- I'm telling you, trading Marner for a big package is probably the best thing for the leafs. Kakko or another great prospect on an ELC could be great.


Marner vs Kotkaniemi + mtl first round pick . But we prefer offersheet .
May 30, 2019 at 5:30
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Quoting: a1111
Marner vs Kotkaniemi + mtl first round pick .


MTL doesn't want Marner... we have a contract apocalypse in 2021, so we are keeping some cap space for flexibility

-> I just think the leafs are better off getting a young start on ELC (like Kappo) or a stud prospect at D ( plus the rest of tha package)

It's better to have a balance team.

you may score 5 goals in average per night... but if you get scored the same amount... you are not better.

while if you go down to 3.5 goals per game, but with a 2.3 goal against... you will win more often
May 30, 2019 at 5:33
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
MTL doesn't want Marner... we have a contract apocalypse in 2021, so we are keeping some cap space for flexibility

-> I just think the leafs are better off getting a young start on ELC (like Kappo) or a stud prospect at D ( plus the rest of tha package)

It's better to have a balance team.

you may score 5 goals in average per night... but if you get scored the same amount... you are not better.

while if you go down to 3.5 goals per game, but with a 2.3 goal against... you will win more often


Problem of Toronto is defense . The fact that they have a lot of offensive star force them to put a lot of money overthere . We can offersheet right under the 10,568,000 to only give 2 first if im not mistaking . Either way it's gonna be hard to pay all theses stars .
May 30, 2019 at 5:43
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Quoting: a1111
Problem of Toronto is defense . The fact that they have a lot of offensive star force them to put a lot of money overthere . We can offersheet right under the 10,568,000 to only give 2 first if im not mistaking . Either way it's gonna be hard to pay all theses stars .


TML match everything up to 10,568,001
May 30, 2019 at 5:45
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Quoting: Laudan
TML match everything up to 10,568,001


Yeah but still eventually there some cap struggles on the horizon , right ?
May 30, 2019 at 5:47
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Yeah but still eventually there some cap struggles on the horizon , right ?


it can be that easy : https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1160057

and with the current fuss about Zaitsev requesting trade even easier
May 30, 2019 at 5:49
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Quoting: Laudan
it can be that easy : https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1160057

and with the current fuss about Zaitsev requesting trade even easier


Zaitsev have negative value if you ask me .. This is Toronto main cap problem , get rid of that contract and it sound way better but it's easier said than done i think .
May 30, 2019 at 5:52
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Quoting: a1111
Zaitsev have negative value if you ask me .. This is Toronto main cap problem , get rid of that contract and it sound way better but it's easier said than done i think .


Give us a first and a second and get rid of Marleau contract and we don't offersheet no one . DEAL ! lol
 
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