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2 big trades NYI DALLAS

Created by: Poehling
Initial Creation Date: May 31, 2019
Published: May 31, 2019 at 5:30 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Lehkonen, Artturi3$1,850,000
Janmark, Mattias4$2,150,000
Reilly, Mike1$950,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Leddy, Nick
NYI
  1. Tatar, Tomas
MTL
  1. Robertson, Jason
  2. Janmark, Mattias [RFA Rights]
DAL
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Armia, Joel [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
MTL
MTL
CBJ
MTL
MTL
ARI
CHI
EDM
MTL
WPG
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
WPG
MTL
MTL
MTL
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$74,060,476$0$3,525,000$8,939,524
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$1,850,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Janmark, Mattias
$2,150,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYI
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$950,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 31, 2019 at 5:38
#1
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If Danault would be available I would be interested from Buffalo.
May 31, 2019 at 5:38
#2
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bad trades, this sets them back
May 31, 2019 at 5:40
#3
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Quoting: Cheesesauce
If Danault would be available I would be interested from Buffalo.


I tried to do one with Buffalo but only the St-Louis 1st round pick is interesting, but isnt enough.
May 31, 2019 at 5:41
#4
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Quoting: GrkHabsPK
bad trades, this sets them back


For 1 year, yeah. But do you think MTL will be cup contender next year ? No
May 31, 2019 at 5:42
#5
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Quoting: Poehling
I tried to do one with Buffalo but only the St-Louis 1st round pick is interesting, but isnt enough.


McCabe+ prospect? We have a number of interesting perspectives, of course I wouldn't abandon the Olofsson or Mittelstadt, but others probably would have been available.
May 31, 2019 at 5:43
#6
Jmooya
Joined: Mar 2018
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I like the idea of going after leddy to help the top 4 LD, but Tatar was arguably the habs 2nd best winger this past season, and quickly a fan favourite. If you make that deal, you need to get a replacement forward in the top 6.

The 2nd trade doesn’t make much sense to me. Philip danault performed very well as our 2C and is at worst a great 3C in the league. Armia for jannmark alone is about fair value (but armia is a good locker room guy for kotkaniemi so why trade him). While Robertson is a good prospect, the habs already have poehling, Evans and Suzuki waiting to make the leap. No need to trade a known food commodity for another prospect.
May 31, 2019 at 5:44
#7
Joined: May 2019
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Likes: 1
Quoting: Poehling
For 1 year, yeah. But do you think MTL will be cup contender next year ? No


No they wont be, so you dont need to get Leddy and give up Tatar who actually produced, and Danault who actually plays with some kind of passion
May 31, 2019 at 5:47
#8
Not a burger anymore
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DAL declines. Danault's nice, but I wouldn't give our best prospect outside of NHL for him, especially when we don't really need him that much.

I'd like to inquire about Janmark+something for Armia trade though, if possible?
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May 31, 2019 at 5:50
#9
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Quoting: Jmooya
I like the idea of going after leddy to help the top 4 LD, but Tatar was arguably the habs 2nd best winger this past season, and quickly a fan favourite. If you make that deal, you need to get a replacement forward in the top 6.

The 2nd trade doesn’t make much sense to me. Philip danault performed very well as our 2C and is at worst a great 3C in the league. Armia for jannmark alone is about fair value (but armia is a good locker room guy for kotkaniemi so why trade him). While Robertson is a good prospect, the habs already have poehling, Evans and Suzuki waiting to make the leap. No need to trade a known food commodity for another prospect.


Tatar can be replace easely on the Left side. Byron is a 20 goals scorer, but I prefer Lehkonen personally. Lehkonen did everything perfect, exept scoring 25 goals. He was very good at the end of the season, playing on the 1st line with Domi. Maybe he'll get is confidance back. Poehling might be able to replace Danault with is defensive play. MTL have a excellent prospect in every position KK-Poehling (C) Suzuki Ylonen (RW) Romanov (LD) Josh Brook (RD) Primeau (G) but no excellent prospect (LW). Thats why I target Robertson, and Dallas need a 2C. I think Danault vs Janmark ( filled a hole ) Robertson is in favor of MTL so I add Armia to sweet the deal.

Im just trying to make fair trades, I hope Bergevin dont move this summer actually. But this website is so fun, and I'm trying to do fair trades for both team
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May 31, 2019 at 5:52
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
DAL declines. Danault's nice, but I wouldn't give our best prospect outside of NHL for him, especially when we don't really need him that much.

I'd like to inquire about Janmark+something for Armia trade though, if possible?


Not really, did those trades for fun, MTL are actually loaded on the LW ( Drouin Tatar Lehkonen Byron )
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May 31, 2019 at 5:53
#11
Blues GM v4
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It's an interesting deal with the Islanders, but I think they'd need to add in this scenario. Tatar is coming off a fantastic year, and Leddy just had one of his worst seasons, so his value is very low at the moment. I also find it interesting that you don't have Suzuki making the team next year
May 31, 2019 at 5:55
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Quoting: krakowitz
It's an interesting deal with the Islanders, but I think they'd need to add in this scenario. Tatar is coming off a fantastic year, and Leddy just had one of his worst seasons, so his value is very low at the moment. I also find it interesting that you don't have Suzuki making the team next year


IMO, Poehling & Suzuki are not making the team next year wink Teasdale-Poehling-Suzuki will be Laval first line
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May 31, 2019 at 6:15
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I could see Dallas highly considering personally. Robertson would be tough to lose, but Danault has already shown he can be a consistent, productive player at this level. And Armia would also be an upgrade over Janmark. If I'm Montreal, I'd request a sweetener to this deal. I'd be happy in Dallas.
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May 31, 2019 at 6:32
#14
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Happy with the Islanders deal, though I'd miss watching Tatar a lot.

Not convinced of the Dallas trade. Danault is truly a rising star and an heir to the Patrice Bergeron mantle. Jason Robertson can absolutely score like a maniac, but his skating is still suspect and he was still just 44th on THN's Future Watch list. So on a one-for-one, Dallas would seem to win. Armia is very solid in a 3rd-4th line setting, as is Janmark. But Janmark doesn't really fill a need in Montreal. So, I think there needs to be a 2nd or something else coming in the deal. Or, any interest in a guy named Alzner?
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May 31, 2019 at 6:34
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Quoting: Karr31
I could see Dallas highly considering personally. Robertson would be tough to lose, but Danault has already shown he can be a consistent, productive player at this level. And Armia would also be an upgrade over Janmark. If I'm Montreal, I'd request a sweetener to this deal. I'd be happy in Dallas.


I just did. I've got this guy named Alzner......
 
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