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Debrusk for a 1st

taking a hockey rumor instagram account seriously

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I'll preface this by saying I couldn't hate this any more. Here are my issues:
1. God bless you if you think they'll get McAvoy to agree to 8 years 7.5 million. I don't think there's a chance he takes long term unless he's getting 9. He's smart. He knows he's going to get paid if he takes a bridge.
2. Carlo laughs in disgust at that offer. Maybe you could lock him down for 7 years at 5 million.
3. I don't know what on earth would make anyone think that they can hand over a top 6 role on a contending team to Kuhlman.
4. I just don't get the hype around Hall. The guy has had one great year, one real good year, and a bunch of 50-60 point type seasons with a ton of injuries mixed in. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if his rapid decline starts at age 30, but even if it doesn't, what are you paying 10 million for? 90 points, or 60 points? pretty tough to tell. Hard pass.
5. So this is a torey krug sign and trade? Because that happens all the time right? I have no memory of such a thing happening with a pending UFA. The Sharks did sign Setoguchi as an RFA and trade him right after. That was in 2011. Ya, not happening.
6. Trading Debrusk is a legit laughably bad idea, especially just for a draft pick.

I would unfollow whatever account that is.

"Grizzly pretty much following his exact path, but might be just a little more skilled overall"

I'm sorry what? Krug broke in as a full-timer when he was 22yr old, while Grz was 24 years old.

By the time he was 25, Krug has already had multiple 40+ point seasons and a 50+ point season. Krug had 40 points his first full year in the league, Grz for his career has 33 points. In what world is Grz following the same exact path? Do you mean because both played NCCA hockey, are undersized LHD and play a similar style?

Vegas doesn't need a puck moving offensive dman & they have serious cap problems.

It seems like the Backes to STL ship has sailed. Win or lose - If they win, he can't go back there, if they lose - he can't go back there. No Shame, but STL wanted him back, but he took they/chance for a Cup. I can't imagine that sits well. Minnesota is a far better fit IMO.

Bjork - why? He is an NHL caliber player now, why trade him for someone who likely will not be for 3+ years.

Debrusk - Rangers aren't giving up Kakko for him. Also, I Love Debrusk, but lets think about this...Kakko has pretty much the equivalent value as Hughes. This isn't the 2017 (hirshier/patrick) Draft - it is going to resemble the 2013 (McKinnon/Barkov) draft.

Well Debrusk was on 35 goal pace this year and is only getting better, a 1st wouldn’t be too much to ask for him (although I doubt the rangers would want to give up THEIR first).

Also nhl.discussion isn’t a rumor page, it’s a news page, they don’t just pull things out of their ass but I’m not sure where the Hall news came from

Debrusk is being traded for 2020 first, not the Kakko pick.

I don’t know what Bjork you’re watching but he has not been NHL caliber for Boston, not to mention he’s made out of glass.

Oh no, I was saying that Debrusk is worth more than a first. Kids a stud and bruins have no business making that trade.

Believe the Rangers 1st was 2020, not 2019.

The one idea I mentioned to a few people (never made an ACGM), was as deal centered around DeBrusk for Ehlers.

Ah - Missed the pick was a year out. They are still not doing it as the Rangers still seem a couple years away, so the pick will likely be high.

Which Bjork?- The One that has made the team out of camp for two straight years. He was rolling in 17- 18 and then got hurt and struggled when he came back. Struggled to start the year and then blew out his shoulder again. He still has 15pts in 50 games - which certainly isn't stud level, but probably NHL caliber. Heinen looked like garbage for until about Feb. as well.

I am not saying if they get a great offer for him they shouldn't, but a 3rd and a 4th? I'd just rather have a guy who can play in the NHL. Danton Heinen was the last 3rd or 4th round pick to play in the NHL- 2014. He was drafted the same year as Bjork was (5th).

In fact since 2006 (marchand) - Here are the 3rd or 4th rd picks to play in NHL: It took Grz & Heinen unti 2017-18

2014 - Heinen -4th --
2013 - Cehalrik - 3rd --
2012 - Grzelcyk - 3rd --
2011 - Ferlin - 4th -- 7GP
2010 - Cunningham -4th -- 63GP
2009 - Mcdermid -4th -- 21 GP
2008 - Hutchinson - 3rd -- 111 GP
2008 - Arniel - 4th -- 1GP

So really best case scenario is it takes 3-4 years for a guy to help the team and then you have to make the right pick. Lauko could do it next year & Hall seems like he'll be an NHL'er but it will probably be 2-4 years until they can crack the lineup.

Pretty sure he was saying you would have to be brain dead to trade debrusk for only a first round pick

Yeah that makes more sense

Lol ok I guess he is worth more! I didn't wanna overestimate

Perfectly said... People just don't wanna accept values that go against their ideas

Again, well said, this guy has no clue what he's saying

Fair enough maybe Bjork is worth more, just not worth keeping him on the bruins... I just know that if I over-value bruins players, idiots everywhere will have aneurisms lol
But which Hall are you talking about:? "Hall seems like he'll be an NHL'er but it will probably be 2-4 years until they can crack the lineup" ... Taylor hall won MVP last year im pretty sure lol

You are certainly right that the age is different, absolutely ill give you that... But don't underestimate Griz, he has really only come out in the past two years and has grown rapidly in that time

Bro you always come on here like you know everything... Do not overestimate your own knowledge and please be kind to others who are just as smart as you...
EVERYTHING I have seen about Mcavoy has been around 7 x 7 ... So I gave him 7.5 ... Fine give him 8, but not 9 lol
Carlo, being a very defensive defenseman, will get a more conservative contract, and again, EVERYTHING I have seen has been 3 to 3.5 so yeah...
Kuhlman plays great with Krejci, and he will be even better next year, so I would check my facts before commenting here if I were you.
Hall played on a BAD Edmonton team for his first few years, and has come out huge the past two years playing for a BAD Jersey team, so you are wrong again
You may be right about the sign and trade, so maybe they just trade him this offseason, or during the season..,. IDK (he is just gonna take up too much cap space so it does make sense)
Again, this is just for fun, but yeah Debrusk for a pick is what I want to do for the fun of this GM thing so get off your high horse and enjoy the idea... He is worth a first (top 15 to 6 or 7) if not more, I just don't wanna overestimate because salty anti-bruins fans will go crazy

Thank you for clarifying to this guy! That trade would certainly be interesting to explore

Curtis Hall their 2018 4th rd pick.

I hate it when people post something crazy, get the obvious bashing they have coming to them, and then say, "shut up bro this is just for fun." Grow up. If it's just for fun and you don't want criticism, guess what...you don't have to hit publish. The second you hit publish you can't complain about people bashing your ideas, especially if they're flat out bonkers.

On McAvoy. If everything...wait, hold on, you used all caps, sorry. if EVERYTHING you've seen about McAvoy, you should probably start reading/listening to different hockey writers. Ever heard of Bob McKenzie. He flat out reported that McAvoy will not even consider a long term deal. I think McKenzie's reputation is pretty darn good.

As for Kuhlman, you said i should check my facts because he played great? Ummm, according to who? Why isn't he playing now? Why did he stink in the AHL? Why couldn't he hang? He played great right? I think you need to work really hard on understanding what a fact is. Him "playing great," is a subjective opinion, and one that I find beyond absurd. He's a fast player who doesn't know how to play at the NHL level. He stinks.

As for Hall, again, let's work together on understanding what a fact is. How am I wrong about Hall? I listed facts. He had one great, MVP caliber season. He had one real good point per game season. The rest have been injury plagued seasons with middling offensive production. Taylor hall has had over 65 points twice in his career. Before you say I'm wrong about Hall somehow, I'm raising questions about a player. I very clearly did not say he stinks, or that he is most assuredly the 60 point player, I asked which player you were getting for 10 million dollars a year. It is a very legitimate concern. Taylor Hall is 24th in points since entering the league. That's good, awesome in fact, but given the inconsistencies, I struggle to justify an 8 figure cap hit taking him to 35 or whatever.

Why trade Debrusk? What's the point? What's gained? How is the team better long term or short term?

I get it now... You are just a sad person hiding behind a computer screen with no life ahead of you (I mean I am on this site once a month maybe, you literally come here every day to argue and make fun of people, we all see if)... This is the real life, you are nothing special, you are no smarter than me or thousands of other people on this site. Get that you have your opinion and we have ours, but you are not definitively right in the slightest.

You make valid arguments, but ones that me and many others disagree with. I have read numerous articles and seen "inside scoops" from many sources on both Kuhlman and Mcavoy, and while we may think differently, you are not correct. Grow up and realize opinions are just that, opinions. You will have yours, and we will have ours. Get over yourself.

Again, THIS IS JUST FOR FUN! I would NEVER trade Debrusk, but I made it clear from the beginning that this was just for fun. Unless, of course you didn't read my descriptions and trade descriptions, you would have know that. Grow up and get a life. Oh and everyone that saw your comment knows how childish you are and how braindead you are that you didn't know it was just for fun. GROW UP

Oh and yeah if you read descriptions, you would have seen that I HAVE NO CLUE how much to give hall, I didn't know if it was too high or too low... So a kind suggestion would do.

Oh lol, I have only been talking about Taylor Hall lol... Don't worry I know Curtis won't be ready for some time

inside scoop on Kuhlman? Dude, what are you talking about? Who needs a scoop? We all saw him play. Then we all saw him get sent down.....what scoop do you need there? As you say, these are opinions...you're the one spouting off about facts and how i'm wrong about this and wrong about that, and how I should check facts about subjective opinions. Come on man. You're just really digging yourself into a hole of stupidity.

Lol really, pulling out the insults now... Come on, it is you trying to be matter of fact. I literally said about 10 times that I AM NOT CERTAIN about these things. Literally 10 times thoughout this page you can see me say "I am speculating" or "IDK" or "Not sure"... Im the one saying it is opinions based by fact, you are saying they are facts according to your opinions lol... So ironic

wait sorry weren't you the guy that called me braindead in your last post? ya, gotcha. enjoy the finals dude.