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Zucker and Spurgeon for Rakell

Jun 5 at 7:00
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The basic structure of my latest idea for this trade is:

{Rickard Rakell}* plus the 2019 San Jose first-round pick (number 29 overall) plus {conditional pick (Zuccarello)}

for

{Jason Zucker} plus {Jared Spurgeon} plus {balancing factor}

* OR {Ondrej Kase plus an A prospect}; the A prospect could be LD Josh Mahura or C Antoine Morand or someone to be negotiated -- but I'll come back to this

The conditional pick is a 2021 Anaheim third-round pick that becomes a 2021 first-round pick if Spurgeon re-ups with the Ducks in the summer of 2020

The balancing factor is a 2019 Minnesota second-round pick (number 42 overall) plus a conditional 2021 Minnesota second-round pick; the condition is that it is transferred only if Spurgeon does NOT re-up with the Ducks

Therefore,

IF SPURGEON RE-SIGNS WITH ANAHEIM:

Minnesota gets Rickard Rakell, San Jose's 2019 first-round pick and Anaheim's 2021 first-round pick

Anaheim gets Jason Zucker, Jared Spurgeon, and Minnesota's 2019 second-round pick

Note that one of the hidden benefits of this transaction to Minnesota is a cap reduction of almost $6.9M in the first year and $1.7M in each of the next two years

I think that this potential outcome is even, but I agree that if it favors either team, that team is Anaheim

IF SPURGEON WALKS IN 2020:

Minnesota is left with Rickard Rakell, a 2019 first-round pick and a 2021 third-round pick

Anaheim is left with Jason Zucker, a 2019 second-round pick and a 2021 second-round pick

Again, I think that this potential outcome is even, but I agree that if it favors either team, that team is Anaheim, primarily because of the proximity between #29 overall and #42 overall in the 2019 draft

THE SNAG:

The flaw in this construction is what happens during the upcoming 2019-2020 season. In effect, Minnesota will have Rakell and the remote chance that the #29 pick plays immediately, i.e., one roster player barring a miracle, while Anaheim has the services of both Zucker and Spurgeon (plus the even more remote chance that the #29 pick plays immediately). Essentially, Minnesota needs to be compensated for this shortfall.

I think that the A prospects come in here. I think the first element in the original deal has to be Rakell plus one prospect or Kase plus two prospects. That’s as close as I can come to an even exchange: Anaheim gets the immediate benefit of two NHLers in 2019-2020 and Minnesota gets the future benefit of an extra asset in the coming seasons.

So the final proposal is: Rakell, Mahura or Morand, 2019 first, 2021 conditional third for Zucker, Spurgeon, 2019 second plus 2021 conditional second

I will understand if this idea is greeted with deafening silence because no one wants to waste a lot of time thinking it over.
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Jun 5 at 7:45
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
The basic structure of my latest idea for this trade is:

{Rickard Rakell}* plus the 2019 San Jose first-round pick (number 29 overall) plus {conditional pick (Zuccarello)}

for

{Jason Zucker} plus {Jared Spurgeon} plus {balancing factor}

* OR {Ondrej Kase plus an A prospect}; the A prospect could be LD Josh Mahura or C Antoine Morand or someone to be negotiated -- but I'll come back to this

The conditional pick is a 2021 Anaheim third-round pick that becomes a 2021 first-round pick if Spurgeon re-ups with the Ducks in the summer of 2020

The balancing factor is a 2019 Minnesota second-round pick (number 42 overall) plus a conditional 2021 Minnesota second-round pick; the condition is that it is transferred only if Spurgeon does NOT re-up with the Ducks

Therefore,

IF SPURGEON RE-SIGNS WITH ANAHEIM:

Minnesota gets Rickard Rakell, San Jose's 2019 first-round pick and Anaheim's 2021 first-round pick

Anaheim gets Jason Zucker, Jared Spurgeon, and Minnesota's 2019 second-round pick

Note that one of the hidden benefits of this transaction to Minnesota is a cap reduction of almost $6.9M in the first year and $1.7M in each of the next two years

I think that this potential outcome is even, but I agree that if it favors either team, that team is Anaheim

IF SPURGEON WALKS IN 2020:

Minnesota is left with Rickard Rakell, a 2019 first-round pick and a 2021 third-round pick

Anaheim is left with Jason Zucker, a 2019 second-round pick and a 2021 second-round pick

Again, I think that this potential outcome is even, but I agree that if it favors either team, that team is Anaheim, primarily because of the proximity between #29 overall and #42 overall in the 2019 draft

THE SNAG:

The flaw in this construction is what happens during the upcoming 2019-2020 season. In effect, Minnesota will have Rakell and the remote chance that the #29 pick plays immediately, i.e., one roster player barring a miracle, while Anaheim has the services of both Zucker and Spurgeon (plus the even more remote chance that the #29 pick plays immediately). Essentially, Minnesota needs to be compensated for this shortfall.

I think that the A prospects come in here. I think the first element in the original deal has to be Rakell plus one prospect or Kase plus two prospects. That’s as close as I can come to an even exchange: Anaheim gets the immediate benefit of two NHLers in 2019-2020 and Minnesota gets the future benefit of an extra asset in the coming seasons.

So the final proposal is: Rakell, Mahura or Morand, 2019 first, 2021 conditional third for Zucker, Spurgeon, 2019 second plus 2021 conditional second

I will understand if this idea is greeted with deafening silence because no one wants to waste a lot of time thinking it over.


Lol yup I can’t say that I would have saw this unless you pointed it out. I think it is a great deal both ways. Ducks get the D help and a lefty and the wild get their much needed #1 RHW on a great deal plus some decent picks to help rebuild a dwindling prospect pool.

You should post this as an agm and either co this in the explanation or link to it in the comments. I think it’s a great hockey trade.
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Jun 5 at 7:47
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Lol yup I can’t say that I would have saw this unless you pointed it out. I think it is a great deal both ways. Ducks get the D help and a lefty and the wild get their much needed #1 RHW on a great deal plus some decent picks to help rebuild a dwindling prospect pool.

You should post this as an agm and either co this in the explanation or link to it in the comments. I think it’s a great hockey trade.


Thanks. I appreciate the positive reinforcement, particularly when it's from someone whose opinion I value highly. Thank you for taking the time to read it.
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Jun 5 at 10:52
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I like it a lot. Seems to make sense both ways for me. As always, very well thought out. Great work!
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