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Created by: thomasjohn
Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2019
Published: Jun. 6, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Yes I know this is not happening
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,000,000
8$8,500,000
2$7,000,000
3$2,500,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
2.
WPG
  1. Patrick, Nolan
  2. Rubtsov, German
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (PHI)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (PHI)
  5. 2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
3.
OTT
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
  2. Little, Bryan
  3. Perreault, Mathieu
  4. 2019 2nd round pick (WPG)
  5. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
  6. 2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
4.
NJD
  1. Lowry, Adam
  2. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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Logo of the WPG
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Logo of the PHI
2020
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
2021
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$73,257,499$0$3,135,000$9,742,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$894,167$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$741,667$741,667
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$60,000$60K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 5
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$3,150,000$3,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$4,875,000$4,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$1,225,000$1,225,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 6, 2019 at 3:25 p.m.
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Wpgman
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Toews for Wheeler straight up
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Jun. 6, 2019 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Wpgman
Toews for Wheeler straight up


Gonna be a no from me dawg.
Jun. 6, 2019 at 3:33 p.m.
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tko2020
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Quoting: Wpgman
Toews for Wheeler straight up


Yeah but that's not overboard enough
Jun. 6, 2019 at 3:47 p.m.
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Kyle from Chicago
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Lol no
Jun. 6, 2019 at 4:14 p.m.
#5
ChicagoGM
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Yea..... NO to that Hawks trade. That's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge underpayment.
Jun. 6, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.
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Boush
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So. Here's the thing. WPG loses that CHI trade. You're currently getting similar production on better contracts. Toews has one of the worst contracts in the league considering he just had his best ever year and it wasn't as good as Scheifele's. Kane is an upgrade on Wheeler, but the latter is coming off back to back 91 point seasons, which Kane himself has only ever topped twice (including last year, and both were 100+ point seasons), so I'm still not sure that much more money for less term is worth it for that swap either. Big Buff for two years on a bad contract is much better than Seabrook on another one for five more.

The WPG trio has a combined line 2018-2019 line of 62-44-206 with Buff missing half the season (a combined point per game pace). The CHI trio is 84-135-219 with a combined 5 games missed (a combined 0.91 points per game) and for that you're paying $3,900,000 a year more for the next two years and $21,300,000 overall.

Toews and Kane have the name recognition and love, and that's the only reason that Chicago could get away with not sending over a pick or a prospect to thank WPG for saving the team millions a year while getting a little younger (since Scheifele is only 26 and Buff comes off the books 3 years sooner than Seabrook) and without having to sacrifice anything significant in production.
Jun. 6, 2019 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Boush
So. Here's the thing. WPG loses that CHI trade. You're currently getting similar production on better contracts. Toews has one of the worst contracts in the league considering he just had his best ever year and it wasn't as good as Scheifele's. Kane is an upgrade on Wheeler, but the latter is coming off back to back 91 point seasons, which Kane himself has only ever topped twice (including last year, and both were 100+ point seasons), so I'm still not sure that much more money for less term is worth it for that swap either. Big Buff for two years on a bad contract is much better than Seabrook on another one for five more.

The WPG trio has a combined line 2018-2019 line of 62-44-206 with Buff missing half the season (a combined point per game pace). The CHI trio is 84-135-219 with a combined 5 games missed (a combined 0.91 points per game) and for that you're paying $3,900,000 a year more for the next two years and $21,300,000 overall.

Toews and Kane have the name recognition and love, and that's the only reason that Chicago could get away with not sending over a pick or a prospect to thank WPG for saving the team millions a year while getting a little younger (since Scheifele is only 26 and Buff comes off the books 3 years sooner than Seabrook) and without having to sacrifice anything significant in production.


Yeah I'm aware that it doesn't make financial sense for Winnipeg. There is a lot of talk on here about Winnipeg's leadership issues, so I figured I'd base an AGM on what would the Jets look like if you switched out Winnipeg's big 3 with Chicago's big 3. Just for fun, nothing serious. Most things you see on here are ridiculous so I thought I'd be try my hand at it.
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Jun. 7, 2019 at 12:10 p.m.
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Boush
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Quoting: thomasjohn
Yeah I'm aware that it doesn't make financial sense for Winnipeg. There is a lot of talk on here about Winnipeg's leadership issues, so I figured I'd base an AGM on what would the Jets look like if you switched out Winnipeg's big 3 with Chicago's big 3. Just for fun, nothing serious. Most things you see on here are ridiculous so I thought I'd be try my hand at it.


I do get where you were coming from, but a lot of the comments were mocking it by implying that it was a big underpayment by WPG. I was more targeting them.
 
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