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Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 8, 2019
Published: Jun. 8, 2019
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RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
2$1,750,000
2$1,000,000
1$1,650,000
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2$2,800,000
1$3,000,000
2$2,500,000
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2019
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2020
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2021
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24$83,000,000$73,522,500$0$5,107,500$9,477,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,387,500$3,387,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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Jun. 8, 2019 at 2:52 p.m.
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Not even close to enough.
....you asked for it! Lol
Jun. 8, 2019 at 2:59 p.m.
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Ahh yes, exactly what the Flames are looking to do after a season where their young star shined brighter than ever. Ship him for a few good but not spectacular pieces - as recent history has taught us, it's not the best players that make a team. Go wide or go home. Actually I'm unsure as to why Buffalo would do this. Maybe they could also ship Bogosian, Scandella AND Hunwick for Victor Hedman. I mean Hedman is good, don't get me wrong, but he's not 3 separate defensemen, how can he compete?
Jun. 8, 2019 at 3:09 p.m.
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Ahh yes, exactly what the Flames are looking to do after a season where their young star shined brighter than ever. Ship him for a few good but not spectacular pieces - as recent history has taught us, it's not the best players that make a team. Go wide or go home. Actually I'm unsure as to why Buffalo would do this. Maybe they could also ship Bogosian, Scandella AND Hunwick for Victor Hedman. I mean Hedman is good, don't get me wrong, but he's not 3 separate defensemen, how can he compete?


Hedman has around the same value as Gadreau maybe a tad less and Reinhart, Sheary and Pilut let alone a first are worth so much more than the players you listed, get real. I get it. I underpaid for the guy and you don't like it. Don't be dramatic.
Jun. 8, 2019 at 3:09 p.m.
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This is bad all around, no way Calgary makes that trade and on top of it you added age not to mention Okposo is in your top 6...HARD NO
Jun. 8, 2019 at 3:10 p.m.
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This is bad all around, no way Calgary makes that trade and on top of it you added age not to mention Okposo is in your top 6...HARD NO


Okposo on a line with gaudreau will be much improved imo. Not elite but passable.
Jun. 8, 2019 at 3:15 p.m.
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Okposo on a line with gaudreau will be much improved imo. Not elite but passable.


Okposo played with Eichel and couldn't score 20...and now he is 3 years older so no he won't be much improved
Jun. 8, 2019 at 3:24 p.m.
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Hedman has around the same value as Gadreau maybe a tad less and Reinhart, Sheary and Pilut let alone a first are worth so much more than the players you listed, get real. I get it. I underpaid for the guy and you don't like it. Don't be dramatic.


I'm just marvelling at the fact that people keep thinking 3 okay pieces result in a good one. David Krejci was great this year, so was Matt Grzelcyk, if I add Trent Frederic and a 1st, will that get me Jack Eichel?

No, and I know it won't, because you can't just add more spare parts to make a whole, on any scale, it doesn't matter if it's several great players for one elite or a few good for a great one. It doesn't work that way. Because you can't replace a 1st line with multiple 2nd lines.

What you force Calgary to do here is 1) Slotting in Reinhart instead of Gaudreau, which let's face it is a massive downgrade, with what's probably still a similar cap hit 2) Force Pilut into a LHD chart that already has Giordano, Hanifin, and Brodie with Valimaki and Kylington waiting to join 3) Take on 3m worth of Sheary when you're struggling with cap space as it is.

They're getting more expensive, they're not really upgrading a single position, and they're not in the market for draft picks. Can you try to view this from anyone's perspective but your own?
Jun. 8, 2019 at 3:51 p.m.
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I'm just marvelling at the fact that people keep thinking 3 okay pieces result in a good one. David Krejci was great this year, so was Matt Grzelcyk, if I add Trent Frederic and a 1st, will that get me Jack Eichel?

No, and I know it won't, because you can't just add more spare parts to make a whole, on any scale, it doesn't matter if it's several great players for one elite or a few good for a great one. It doesn't work that way. Because you can't replace a 1st line with multiple 2nd lines.

What you force Calgary to do here is 1) Slotting in Reinhart instead of Gaudreau, which let's face it is a massive downgrade, with what's probably still a similar cap hit 2) Force Pilut into a LHD chart that already has Giordano, Hanifin, and Brodie with Valimaki and Kylington waiting to join 3) Take on 3m worth of Sheary when you're struggling with cap space as it is.

They're getting more expensive, they're not really upgrading a single position, and they're not in the market for draft picks. Can you try to view this from anyone's perspective but your own?


Its an armchair GM team bro. Easy. Woohsah.
Jun. 8, 2019 at 4:04 p.m.
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Its an armchair GM team bro. Easy. Woohsah.


I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though
Jun. 8, 2019 at 4:11 p.m.
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Ahh yes, exactly what the Flames are looking to do after a season where their young star shined brighter than ever. Ship him for a few good but not spectacular pieces - as recent history has taught us, it's not the best players that make a team. Go wide or go home. Actually I'm unsure as to why Buffalo would do this. Maybe they could also ship Bogosian, Scandella AND Hunwick for Victor Hedman. I mean Hedman is good, don't get me wrong, but he's not 3 separate defensemen, how can he compete?


Dont insult Sam reinhart by making that comparison
Jun. 8, 2019 at 8:55 p.m.
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I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


Quoting: MelonVK
I thought you wanted to discuss this topic, if not, my bad. You don't have to respond though


I did, but it's hard to discuss when you're comparing the package I listed to The players you named instead, obviously as a joke the first time but even the second time. Krejci is nowhere close to reinharts value so I figured you were just being dramatic because I offended you or something. I get my package won't get Gadreau as made fairly obvious by all the other flames fans before you decided to comment with a clearly trolling post. I don't even want Gaudreau enough to argue over value but don't act like my trade is a package of all bums. There's useful guys in there that would recieve a very good player back from a team, it doesn't have to be Calgary. My bad for not studying the needs of a team on the other side of the continent.
Jun. 9, 2019 at 6:37 a.m.
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I did, but it's hard to discuss when you're comparing the package I listed to The players you named instead, obviously as a joke the first time but even the second time. Krejci is nowhere close to reinharts value so I figured you were just being dramatic because I offended you or something. I get my package won't get Gadreau as made fairly obvious by all the other flames fans before you decided to comment with a clearly trolling post. I don't even want Gaudreau enough to argue over value but don't act like my trade is a package of all bums. There's useful guys in there that would recieve a very good player back from a team, it doesn't have to be Calgary. My bad for not studying the needs of a team on the other side of the continent.


Krejci managed 8 more points in 1 fewer game than Reinhart. Krejci basically has one linemate, who scored 42 points, and still put up huge numbers. I think Gaudreau on his contract has a higher value than Eichel on his. I wasn't trolling at all, except obviously the Hedman bit, I was presenting it to you in a way so that you'd understand how upsetting it is to suggest your best player would be available for a package like that.
 
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