Duchene sounds French but he isn't.

I know Taking on Lucic isnt ideal but landing Puljujarvi and a 2nd round pick makes it worth it when you use that 2nd round pick to land Kessel to fix your PP.

Lucic's there for the playoffs where Weal will be less effective the deeper the playoffs go .
Lucic's been there and done that more importantly he did so under our Current Coach who he played his best hockey for .
we'll deal with his Cap as until summer 2022 we have no real issues with only Domi owed any major money at which time Lucic will be entering his last year under contract.

who gives a **** ?

Gallagher barely speaks french basically reading prepared statements in commercials only if he's paid considerable Cash in hand while speaking those words.
he's the most loveable habs we got and over with the fans .(Actually laughs about failing out of French class in a Stu Cowan interview )

Only Prejudice people talk about Speaking French Mattering when our history of Trades and Signings shows we acquire the best regardless of language even if they outright refuse to learn French like Weber does or Petry has. Price like Gallagher puts no importance on it an attitude that was rewarded with an ironclad long term deal in which Price is guaranteed over 60% play or no play .MTL post 1995 lockout has put almost no effort in acquiring french talent .

Where they do mess up is in the Draft choosing a Leblanc over a Kreider for example based not on Talent as Kreider was the better player.

Where's Nate Thompson? He's your 4C, send Poehling to Laval and develop him properly!

Duchene is gonna cost at least $9M.

Wonder if Pittsburgh makes that trade, what was the deal that fell through to Minnesota, what was going to Pittsburgh for Kessel?

Juolevi might need some AHL time, not sure he'll be Nhl ready coming off his surgery or whatever was wrong with him.

Some interesting ideas here but that Lucic deal will absolutely murder you when you have to extend Domi and Mete.

Thompson is where he's best suited in the AHL where he can mentor Suzuki and Evans until after TDL / Playoffs .
Poehling will get nothing from the AHL and will be in Suzuki and Evans way so no upside to demoting him given his instant impact .
putting Poehling in the AHL with these guys wont set us up for a Cup run depth wise but putting Thompson there to prepare them makes more sense .(if we put him through before the season starts he'll clear waivers but if we wait to send him down and later bring up Poehling then Thompson wont clear waivers . )

You're right about Juolevi most likely i just pushed him because if i didnt put him top 4 MTL fans would roast my nuts over giving up a 1st round pick for a player who's like you said coming off injury and we dont know how that will turn out .

Lucic deal doesnt effect Domi who until summer 2022 is the only player with the potential to demand money .
Mete is a RFA who's struggled to find his offense , if someone wants to offer sheet him fine , if not like Subban his ass is ours and he'll sign or he'll sit .

Lucic's final year is 4 m for 2022-23
keep him , bury him or buy him out either way getting Puljujarvi and that 2nd round pick is worth the cost .
Lucic's a fighter there for a playoff run under a coach he went to two finals with and won a cup .

Duchene isnt making 9m cap
he may make it after Performance Bonus's but i guarantee there isnt a Contender in the NHL willing to shell that out for a playmaker .
for a goal scorer capable of hitting 40-50 pts more then once in his career , sure i could see 9m +
but not for Duchene . (i heard this same thing about Statsny when he was UFA and he went for no where near as much as everyone on here claimed )

I'm so happy I found someone who actually sees value in Lucic and JP. Everyone on this site seems to trash them without really looking further into it. I know their value is at all time lows which makes it bad for Oilers to trade them now, but if you're a team looking to buy low on players, this is a deal you need to entertain. I'm fairly certain the Oilers would do a deal like this as well. I wonder though, would MTL trade Tatar no retention and Lehkonen for JP, Lucic, and the 38th overall

Yeah i always try to go back and look at real trades to ground myself and focus on Context. This site has a lot of pretend know it all fans who barely know Fantasy Hockey let alone Real NHL Level players .


Honestly i'd say yes Personally

but in Reality Claude Julien since day 1 when he came in Picked Lehkonen as his go to defensive player and i just dont see Julien being willing to part with him given he burned Hudon this year to give Lehkonen more ice time completely diminishing Hudon's trade value after a great Rookie season in which he was only allowed to step up because Lehkonen was injured . I cant say i get Claude's Love fest with Lehkonen but i know Bergavin was involved in the Muzzin deal and Hayes trade's but backed off likely because Claude has a history of flipping out when you trade his guys like Hamilton,Lucic or Boychuk deals(ultimately leading to a divide that lead to his release )

i'd love to free up the room for Evans who's a great talent who reminds me of a Gallagher/Galchenyuk love child not only in his looks and build but his ability as a forward. (as Claude plays 4th liners who are physical and have a grit side to their game which is somethign Evans has the Lehkonen does not nor ever will

There a lot of interesting idea but im personnally totally disagree with the Pitts trade , cause of the 1st . I think both Shaw and Byron have great value and if we're refering to a Zucker -Kessel trade we are in the around ...

At the TDL the Oilers offered Pul straight up to any team willing to Lucic, and there were no takers. How does it make any sense to you to add a 2nd and expect to get a top 6 forward in return?

You may call me one of thosebut if not wanting the slow footed Lucic and his pure poison of a contract on the team I've cheered for as long I can remember is wrong then I don't want to be right.

you assume to much based on rumors made up without sources .

come back when you have a question rooted in reality or a source for your non-sense

i can agree its a bit overkill but the hope is with these new change our 1st in 2020 will be a late pick #25-31.
i feel with this roster as is and Thompson mentoring Suzuki , Evans and Teasdale in Laval this gives MTL the forward depth for a cup run even with this D core as long as Price and Lindgren perform .

PIT trade shoulda been a 3 team trade on its own post but i wanted to see how close i could come to the caps limit and if i could build a contender today by doing so .
that being said i think i'm pretty close to the mark because as Suzuki , Evans and Teadale get better they'll replace guys like Danault ,Drouin and Kessel in 2-3 years. (then we'll flip those guys for high end picks and prospects .

"That's a bad f***ing trade"- source; this guy

how about look at it this way

MTL takes 1 piece from the Pacioretty Trade and turns it into the 21 year old former 4th overall pick and a 2nd
This makes the return on Pacioretty over 2 years :
Suzuki
Puljujarvi
2nd round 50th overall pick in 2019
2nd round 38th overall pick in 2019


we keep Suzuki , Puljujarvi and the 50th overall pick .
we trade the 38th overall pick and what would be a late 1st round pick in 2020 with Byron and Shaw for Kessel a dominant force on the PP in which MTL ranked last in the NHL most of last season .

in my opinion trading a multi 30 goal scorer in Pacioretty for Suzuki , Puljujarvi , and two 2nd rounders in 2019 makes perfect sense when you end up with Kessel a multi 30 goal scorer with 2 cups as a top point producer in both runs . thats a massive win for a GM turning a pending UFA in Pacioretty into 2 young talented prospects ,a pick and Kessel with term .

Poehling will get absolutely nothing from centering the 4th line. The AHL is the best place for him. The Habs did a good job with Kotkaniemi in his first pro season, Poehling on the 4th line is the complete opposite of that. If he has an amazing camp/preseason that's a different story though.

Domi is gonna get at least a doubling of salary in 2020, Lucic will be a problem as early as next summer, suppose you could trade some guys to make cap space though.

Yeah I don't think Mete is gonna be in line for a massive raise but it's still money/space you need to find, once again Lucic is a problem.

Sorry that's a different time then with Stastny so no comparison and C's get paid more then wingers typically, there's little chance that Duchene is gonna be willing to take less than Skinner, we'll see but I doubt it, he's gonna wanna get paid! ??