SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Stupid NTC

Created by: Coleharborcrosby
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 11, 2019
Published: Jun. 11, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
As I feared would happen, Kessel is making it too difficult to move him with his NTC unfortunately. Something could come up but I doubt it at this point now. This drastically changes the Pens offseason plans but GMJR said that its basically a retool with a focus on moving a few Dmen. Ruhwedel gets his shot but they are probably going to want to make a move for bottom 4 Dman at some point during the year.

Draft: York, McMichael, Poulin, Seider or if Krebs falls because of inury they snag him.

Schultz could also be moved at some point but I am guessing that would likely take place during the season as well.

I also would try out splitting up the group on the PP to start the year as the PP was awful the second half of year year and playoffs. Sid isn`t getting the puck enough on the PP and Guentzel deserves time on the PP as well and won`t get that with Kessel staying. I would start Crosbys PP unit and let them go for a shift or two and then send out the loaded Malkin PP.

Vegas Trade:

Pens could offer sheet Gusev as Vegas is in cap crunch but instead they offer better picks than a 1st and 3rd that offer sheet would haul in and add in Maatta for Haula who`s value is lessened after coming off major injury. Vegas saves cap, gets good Dmen and can sign other RFA`S.

EDM said they want a goalie and Jarry played for Oil Kings and would be a nice cheap option for them. I see some people getting back a straight up second or third for him though and that isn`t going to happen sorry.

3-Way Trade with Minny/Ottawa is

Pens-2020 4th
Minny- Bjugstad and Johnson
(Idk why some people devalue Bjugstad so much but I`m pretty sure Minny would be thrilled to have a massive young scorer like him. Not to mention he is from MIN).
Ottawa-NYR 2019 4th, Aberg and Rask. Aberg is 25 YO and has put up nearly PPG in AHL and decent production with limited ice time in NHL. He would receive a better opportunity in Ottawa. Rask would slide in somewhere in top 6 and PP and would be able to produce like he did in CAR. The guy is a good player but needs to play with skilled players 5v5 and is a PP specialist. Would be a useful player for Ottawa.

Few things I see in other ACGM`s that I completely disagree with:

Hornqvist is 100% not being traded and needs to play on Sid or Malkins line or he is a waste.

Gudbranson isn`t going anywhere he played fine for us after he settled in and isn`t worth moving at this point.

WBS Lineup:

Almeida-Blandisi-Wilson
Bjorkqvist-Hallander-Bellerive
Miletic-Johnson-Drozg
Lucchini-Cramarossa-Hayes

Trotman-Addison
Campbell-Gormley
Almari-Gryba


Larmi
D`Orio
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$950,000
2$800,000
3$5,000,000
2$1,650,000
1$800,000
1$700,000
2$700,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (NYI)
EDM
  1. Jarry, Tristan
  2. 2019 5th round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
VGK
  1. DiPauli, Thomas
  2. Määttä, Olli
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Åberg, Pontus [RFA Rights]
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. 2019 4th round pick (NYR)
  4. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
4.
PIT
    3 Way Trade w/ Minny
    OTT
    1. Åberg, Pontus
    2. Rask, Victor
    3. 2019 4th round pick (NYR)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2019
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the NYI
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the VGK
    Logo of the PIT
    2020
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the MIN
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    2021
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,000,000$80,475,000$132,500$132,500$2,525,000

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $6,800,000$6,800,000
    RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $750,000$750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $800,000$800,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,650,000$1,650,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $700,000$700,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $850,000$850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

    Embed Code

    • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
    • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

    Text-Embed

    Click to Highlight
    Jun. 11, 2019 at 10:04 p.m.
    #1
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 19,215
    Likes: 4,837
    Hörnqvist has no business on Sid/Jake line.
    That's a line that needs to skate. They need a RW like McCann to slot there.

    Gusev does not cost an arm and a leg. He won't play for Vegas this year. He has already said that. He will be a FA next year. Low round pick if he wants to play for the penguins in the NHL. Might be a waste of a pick as he might decide to stay in the KHL.
    Tolyak86 liked this.
    Jun. 11, 2019 at 10:10 p.m.
    #2
    SabresFan1996
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2017
    Posts: 707
    Likes: 211
    I think kessel not waiving his no trade clause shows he wants to stay on a good team and that he likes it in pitt and he still had 33g and 77p so he is still a very good player so they are probably better off with him then without
    Jun. 11, 2019 at 10:31 p.m.
    #3
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2017
    Posts: 2,145
    Likes: 367
    Quoting: pharrow
    Hörnqvist has no business on Sid/Jake line.
    That's a line that needs to skate. They need a RW like McCann to slot there.

    Gusev does not cost an arm and a leg. He won't play for Vegas this year. He has already said that. He will be a FA next year. Low round pick if he wants to play for the penguins in the NHL. Might be a waste of a pick as he might decide to stay in the KHL.


    Hornqvist would be useless on any other line and has been a staple on Sids line for years. He isn`t the type of player to create offense for himself he just wreaks havoc infront of the net and bangs home rebounds. He had one bad year because of multiple injuries. Sids a grinder and has always played with grinders like Kunitz, Dupuis, Guerin and Hornqvist the last few years. He works well with Sids game and he has said multiple times he loves playing with him because he creates space for him and takes away goalies eyes, gets rebounds and retrieves loose pucks. McCann isn`t going to be that player I think he would be awesome on that third line. There isn`t a team in the league that could skate with those 3 and it gives them 3 scoring lines (the magic recipe to all 3 Pens Stanley Cup runs).

    I honestly don`t know what Gusev will go for but most people think that's about it. My last ACGM people said a similar deal wasn`t close to enough. He has been the best player in the KHL for last few years and would honestly be an absolute steal at 5M. He is going to play in the NHL he signed his entry level last year in April after his KHL team terminated his contract so he could sign a more expensive deal and could even command more than 5M but I think he would agree to short term around 5M/per to play on Pens and with Malkin. Malkin would love to play with a Russian and he needs something to get him going again. The guy is going to be an playmaking juggernaut in the NHL just like he was in KHL. But if the Pens can get him for a late round pick that's great I hope they do. I doubt he plays in Vegas they don`t have the room to sign him unless they get rid of other RFA`s but I doubt they would want to mess up chemistry. Regardless I hope the Pens are in discussions to get him no matter what the cost is.
    Jun. 11, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
    #4
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2017
    Posts: 2,145
    Likes: 367
    Quoting: DahlinOlofsson67
    I think kessel not waiving his no trade clause shows he wants to stay on a good team and that he likes it in pitt and he still had 33g and 77p so he is still a very good player so they are probably better off with him then without


    Yeah that's exactly it and he has every right to use his NTC to his advantage. I personally think if he didn`t have that clause in place they could make a deal to improve the team but in this circumstance they are better off keeping him like you said and I`m alright with that too but I do think that its important for him to be separated from Kessel so the Pens can have 3 scoring lines again. That's how they`ve won all 3 of their cups.
    Jun. 12, 2019 at 12:17 a.m.
    #5
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 19,215
    Likes: 4,837
    Quoting: ChampEddy
    Hornqvist would be useless on any other line and has been a staple on Sids line for years. He isn`t the type of player to create offense for himself he just wreaks havoc infront of the net and bangs home rebounds. He had one bad year because of multiple injuries. Sids a grinder and has always played with grinders like Kunitz, Dupuis, Guerin and Hornqvist the last few years. He works well with Sids game and he has said multiple times he loves playing with him because he creates space for him and takes away goalies eyes, gets rebounds and retrieves loose pucks. McCann isn`t going to be that player I think he would be awesome on that third line. There isn`t a team in the league that could skate with those 3 and it gives them 3 scoring lines (the magic recipe to all 3 Pens Stanley Cup runs).

    I honestly don`t know what Gusev will go for but most people think that's about it. My last ACGM people said a similar deal wasn`t close to enough. He has been the best player in the KHL for last few years and would honestly be an absolute steal at 5M. He is going to play in the NHL he signed his entry level last year in April after his KHL team terminated his contract so he could sign a more expensive deal and could even command more than 5M but I think he would agree to short term around 5M/per to play on Pens and with Malkin. Malkin would love to play with a Russian and he needs something to get him going again. The guy is going to be an playmaking juggernaut in the NHL just like he was in KHL. But if the Pens can get him for a late round pick that's great I hope they do. I doubt he plays in Vegas they don`t have the room to sign him unless they get rid of other RFA`s but I doubt they would want to mess up chemistry. Regardless I hope the Pens are in discussions to get him no matter what the cost is.


    Sid has been one of the best grinders in the history of the game. But that misses the point. Sid can play with speed, and he's in his 30s now. They are trying to make sure he doesn't take a beating playing that grinding game. Which is why it's a square peg in a round hole. You can have a functioning crosby for a few extra years if you don't get him killed taking a pounding. Those are just facts.
    Jun. 12, 2019 at 7:34 a.m.
    #6
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2017
    Posts: 2,145
    Likes: 367
    Quoting: pharrow
    Sid has been one of the best grinders in the history of the game. But that misses the point. Sid can play with speed, and he's in his 30s now. They are trying to make sure he doesn't take a beating playing that grinding game. Which is why it's a square peg in a round hole. You can have a functioning crosby for a few extra years if you don't get him killed taking a pounding. Those are just facts.


    He is the best grinder of all time no doubt. But I disagree I Crosby trains harder than anyone in the game and Sullivan always talks about his incredible fitness level that’s gonna allow him to play for years to come at a similar level. Sid already did transform his game years ago after all of his injuries to become less reckless and put less strain on his body. He’s not gonna risk his body like a maniac anymore and is all the more reason why they like 72 on his line is because he does the dirty work. Sids fast yes but he still plays a cycle game down low and and will continue to do that the rest of his career cause that’s what makes him great. Sid already has Jake who is his best winger he’s ever had skill wise and Horny has been and will be a great compliment to those two this year. It’s similar to how Malkin likes to play with rust because he fits well with his style and opens up space for him and gets on loose pucks. Kessel is the one who needs to play with speed and skill so Haula and McCann would be perfect with him IMO. sure McCann looked good with Sid but anyone looks good with him he’s consistently gotten AHL caliber players rich for 12 years but they all fit the mole of a player who is good around the crease and can grind it out and keep plays alive down low and get on loose pucks to extend zone time. McCann is a good player but he’s better suited for a middle 6 role where he can make plays with the puck and use his speed to make plays off the rush.
    Jun. 12, 2019 at 5:40 p.m.
    #7
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 19,215
    Likes: 4,837
    Quoting: ChampEddy
    He is the best grinder of all time no doubt. But I disagree I Crosby trains harder than anyone in the game and Sullivan always talks about his incredible fitness level that’s gonna allow him to play for years to come at a similar level. Sid already did transform his game years ago after all of his injuries to become less reckless and put less strain on his body. He’s not gonna risk his body like a maniac anymore and is all the more reason why they like 72 on his line is because he does the dirty work. Sids fast yes but he still plays a cycle game down low and and will continue to do that the rest of his career cause that’s what makes him great. Sid already has Jake who is his best winger he’s ever had skill wise and Horny has been and will be a great compliment to those two this year. It’s similar to how Malkin likes to play with rust because he fits well with his style and opens up space for him and gets on loose pucks. Kessel is the one who needs to play with speed and skill so Haula and McCann would be perfect with him IMO. sure McCann looked good with Sid but anyone looks good with him he’s consistently gotten AHL caliber players rich for 12 years but they all fit the mole of a player who is good around the crease and can grind it out and keep plays alive down low and get on loose pucks to extend zone time. McCann is a good player but he’s better suited for a middle 6 role where he can make plays with the puck and use his speed to make plays off the rush.


    I don't care how hard you train, what your fitness level is etc... there are only so many hits a person can take. While Sid is dangerous behind the net and does make people look silly back there, he has always been his best on open ice. The more you get him away from the boards and taking a pounding, the longer he will be able to play at a high level. There are simply too many "accidental" sticks to the head, shots to the back, elbows, etc... to have him play that way into his mid 30s. It takes it's toll. The reason I suggest a McCann type player on his RW is he's fast, can play defense, and will go get the puck. That's really the focus of it at this point. Because the Kessel line should get 80% of it's starts in the ozone, which means Crosby line is going to get a 50/50 split. Let them get possession and then run it up ice. And the faster that line is, the more of a threat they are to break out. Which makes other teams have to sit back instead of pinch. Because that line breaking out is a problem. Where having a slower winger like Horny who can't play at that speed doesn't help. That's a line that has to run and gun. That's all there is to it.
    Jun. 13, 2019 at 2:30 p.m.
    #8
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jan. 2017
    Posts: 2,145
    Likes: 367
    Quoting: pharrow
    I don't care how hard you train, what your fitness level is etc... there are only so many hits a person can take. While Sid is dangerous behind the net and does make people look silly back there, he has always been his best on open ice. The more you get him away from the boards and taking a pounding, the longer he will be able to play at a high level. There are simply too many "accidental" sticks to the head, shots to the back, elbows, etc... to have him play that way into his mid 30s. It takes it's toll. The reason I suggest a McCann type player on his RW is he's fast, can play defense, and will go get the puck. That's really the focus of it at this point. Because the Kessel line should get 80% of it's starts in the ozone, which means Crosby line is going to get a 50/50 split. Let them get possession and then run it up ice. And the faster that line is, the more of a threat they are to break out. Which makes other teams have to sit back instead of pinch. Because that line breaking out is a problem. Where having a slower winger like Horny who can't play at that speed doesn't help. That's a line that has to run and gun. That's all there is to it.


    It’s not that I completely disagree but it’s just a fact that Sid wants 72 on his line and he loves that he brings to the table. McCann can carry his own and make plays win the puck on a skilled 3rd scoring line. Hornqvist can’t do that his role is different and works great when he’s healthy. Basically it comes down to Hornqvist being worth his price tag with Sid and not living up to his contract on pretty much any other line unfortunately. Although I think you can argue some of his contract is payment for the intangibles he brings to the team as well. Plus in terms of cap construction you don’t want McCann to go off this year and score 30 goals on Sids line and ask for 5M+ when he could contribute both ways and make an impact on a sick third line and then we can sign him for a few years for cheap.
    Jun. 13, 2019 at 7:10 p.m.
    #9
    Banned
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 19,215
    Likes: 4,837
    Quoting: ChampEddy
    It’s not that I completely disagree but it’s just a fact that Sid wants 72 on his line and he loves that he brings to the table. McCann can carry his own and make plays win the puck on a skilled 3rd scoring line. Hornqvist can’t do that his role is different and works great when he’s healthy. Basically it comes down to Hornqvist being worth his price tag with Sid and not living up to his contract on pretty much any other line unfortunately. Although I think you can argue some of his contract is payment for the intangibles he brings to the team as well. Plus in terms of cap construction you don’t want McCann to go off this year and score 30 goals on Sids line and ask for 5M+ when he could contribute both ways and make an impact on a sick third line and then we can sign him for a few years for cheap.


    I never said McCann I said a McCann type player. McCann is Left handed, I would not want to play him on his off side. But they need a Right handed clone of him.
    Hornqvist salary is to much to play him anywhere else, which it why they should trade him. I'm not even expecting a big return on that. But they have to choose their identity as a team. They can't keep trying to mix mash and hodge podge it together. They want to play up temp, they won two cups doing it. There is no sense holding them back now.
     
    Reply
    To create a post please Login or Register
    Question:
    Options:
    Add Option
    Submit Poll