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(WSH/PHI) - Niskanen for Gudas

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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:00
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:02
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AwesomeMatthews
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I love this for Philadelphia
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:05
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Dom6Yotes
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An overpayed Defenseman That still has 2 Years left on his contract for a Slightly Overpayed Defenseman with One Year on his Contract Philly What the Hell are you doin
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:09
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Dom6Yotes
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Quoting: DSZ
An overpayed Defenseman That still has 2 Years left on his contract for a Slightly Overpayed Defenseman with One Year on his Contract Philly What the Hell are you doin

And Philly Retained 30% of Gudas’s Contract
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:23
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exo2769
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I think that excess cap space was burning a hole in Fletcher's pocket
Jun 14, 2019 at 9:25
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Gudas is garbage (dirty). Not the direction I want to go. however, went from $5.75M cap hit to $2.3M, that opens a good amount of space for actual quality.
Jun 14, 2019 at 9:34
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Makes no sense from the FLyers perspective. Gudas and Niskanen are basically equal so why take on $3.4 cap and remove a good locker room guy?
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:34
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Quoting: biglite351
Gudas is garbage (dirty). Not the direction I want to go. however, went from $5.75M cap hit to $2.3M, that opens a good amount of space for actual quality.


Solid 3rd pairing dman. For a great cap hit. Idc if he’s dirty....,bc he’s on my team now. smile
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:35
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Makes no sense from the FLyers perspective. Gudas and Niskanen are basically equal so why take on $3.4 cap and remove a good locker room guy?


Niskanen perceived value was way higher than his actual value and the flyers pulled the trigger?
Jun 14, 2019 at 9:40
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
I love this for Philadelphia


I agree. Nisky is a 1st pairing guy who plays tough minutes, while Gudas is somewhat sheltered on the 3rd pairing.
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:41
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Makes no sense from the FLyers perspective. Gudas and Niskanen are basically equal so why take on $3.4 cap and remove a good locker room guy?


They are nowhere near equal. Niskanen plays 1st pair, Gudas 3rd pair.

Sheesh, and to think some people get all riled up when I suggest Matt Benning - a solid 4/5 guy - has a modicum of value.
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Jun 14, 2019 at 9:57
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I think a decent trade for both. Flyers get a guy who can play 1st pair minutes (bad underlying stats but still). Caps clear cap space and get a solid 3rd pair guy
Jun 14, 2019 at 10:11
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Quoting: CD282
They are nowhere near equal. Niskanen plays 1st pair, Gudas 3rd pair.

Sheesh, and to think some people get all riled up when I suggest Matt Benning - a solid 4/5 guy - has a modicum of value.


Who gives a fk if he played top pairing! AMac played top pairing 2 years ago, does that mean he is good? Niskanen has been in decline for multiple years now. He isn't good anymore!
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Jun 14, 2019 at 10:22
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Not a fan of Gudas but he's pretty good.
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Jun 14, 2019 at 10:48
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Who gives a fk if he played top pairing! AMac played top pairing 2 years ago, does that mean he is good? Niskanen has been in decline for multiple years now. He isn't good anymore!


Gudas is a lot worse.
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Jun 14, 2019 at 10:57
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Quoting: CD282
Gudas is a lot worse.


LMFAO, no he isn't...
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Jun 14, 2019 at 10:58
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
LMFAO, no he isn't...


He can't even play in the top-4.
Jun 14, 2019 at 11:37
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Fair deal. Philly gets the better D and Caps get the cap space they needed.
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Jun 14, 2019 at 11:52
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Gudas and Wilson on the same team... Washington is slowly becoming a team I hate
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Jun 14, 2019 at 11:58
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Quoting: biglite351
Gudas is garbage (dirty). Not the direction I want to go. however, went from $5.75M cap hit to $2.3M, that opens a good amount of space for actual quality.


Gudas may be a dirty player, but in no way is he a bad player. He’s much better than Niskanen.
Jun 14, 2019 at 11:59
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Not a fan of Gudas but he's pretty good.


Just like Tom Wilson & Brad Marchand, not many people like him, but he is a very valuable player.
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Jun 14, 2019 at 12:05
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Quoting: DSZ
And Philly Retained 30% of Gudas’s Contract


Yeah, I really can't make sense of retaining any of his salary when you're already taking more on. This doesn't make sense to me.
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Jun 14, 2019 at 12:23
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
You are fking clueless bud!


The reality of this is ...if Niskanen was still good why would the caps trade him? Harsh reality is he’s not great that why we signed Jensen and traded him away. Gudas “not being able to play top 4 “ doesn’t matter bc he’s going to play bottom pairing. We got what we needed and philly got a “top pairing” guy
Jun 14, 2019 at 12:25
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Quoting: CD282
He can't even play in the top-4.


He doesn’t have to....? He’s going to play bottom pairing for the caps? Niskanen was an alzner to orlov. Look what happens when you get rid of the backpack. I bet orlov has a fantastic year
Jun 14, 2019 at 12:29
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Quoting: capsin9
The reality of this is ...if Niskanen was still good why would the caps trade him? Harsh reality is he’s not great that why we signed Jensen and traded him away. Gudas “not being able to play top 4 “ doesn’t matter bc he’s going to play bottom pairing. We got what we needed and philly got a “top pairing” guy


Caps traded him because of his cap hit. They got worse in this trade but traded nearly 5 Million Dollars in cap space. Niskanen is the far superior player here, but the Capitals have a cap crunch
 
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