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Big free agent signing that no one saw coming to fill the 2C job-Big Canes trade

Created by: MisstheWhalers
Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 14, 2019
Published: Jun. 15, 2019
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This actually fits and works going forward, apparently Duchene is a big country music fan and there's a big country music festival every summer three hours down the highway from Winnipeg so that'll convince him to sign... ?
Free Agent Signings
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7$9,000,000
7$7,500,000
2$850,000
2$725,000
8$7,675,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,700,000
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,000,000$82,582,500$0$697,500$417,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, RW
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
UFA - 5
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
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UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
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$9,700,000$9,700,000
RW, C
UFA - 7
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$850,000$850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,916,667$2,916,667
C
UFA - 2
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 5
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$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$60,000$60K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$7,600,000$7,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,225,000$1,225,000
G
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
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Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:11 a.m.
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First Pesce trade ive seen that actually overpays for him instead of criminally underpays
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:14 a.m.
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This is very well done
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Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:20 a.m.
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Connor has more value then Pesce? And it's a 23 man roster not 20 man roster. So you've 0 cap space. So more moves need to be added.
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:31 a.m.
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Can't he just fly in for the festival in the summer from Nashville?
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:31 a.m.
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Pesce for Connor seems like a fair deal....talent, term, needs of both teams. Just think Carolina says no. TVR is injured and is a UFA in a year, Faulk UFA in a year, Hamilton UFA in a year. That's the other three RHD. That leaves Pesce as the only long term RHD.
Give away Perrault and then be cap compliant with three ELCs

No summering in Winnipeg and going to the a festival won't be that enticing for Duchene to endure the Winnipeg winters and the the travel schedule the Jets have nod
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:40 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Connor has more value then Pesce? And it's a 23 man roster not 20 man roster. So you've 0 cap space. So more moves need to be added.


Idk, does Connor have more value then Pesce?
Yes I know that, could just trade Perreault or Kulikov and fill out the roster with cheap contracts.
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:41 a.m.
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Idk, does Connor have more value then Pesce?
Yes I know that, could just trade Perreault or Kulikov and fill out the roster with cheap contracts.


Yeah probably similar value is what i meant to say?
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:42 a.m.
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Pesce for Connor seems like a fair deal....talent, term, needs of both teams. Just think Carolina says no. TVR is injured and is a UFA in a year, Faulk UFA in a year, Hamilton UFA in a year. That's the other three RHD. That leaves Pesce as the only long term RHD.
Give away Perrault and then be cap compliant with three ELCs

No summering in Winnipeg and going to the a festival won't be that enticing for Duchene to endure the Winnipeg winters and the the travel schedule the Jets have nod


They can just resign Hamilton and Faulk.
Getting a young goal scorer is worth it.
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Yeah probably similar value is what i meant to say?


So then it's basically a fair trade which is what I always attempt to do when I make an ACGM.
I think it's fair and if it was me and I was trading say Connor or Ehlers this is the kind of return I'd be looking for, a good cost controlled player on a good value contract with a good amount of term remaining.
If I'm trading either Connor or Ehlers for picks/prospects I'd demand a good haul back cause I'm trading the known commodity in the deal.
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:47 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Connor has more value then Pesce? And it's a 23 man roster not 20 man roster. So you've 0 cap space. So more moves need to be added.


It’s a minimum 20 man roster, and does not have to be 23. If you subtract the overpays for Laine and Duchene this team would have the space.
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:52 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Pesce for Connor seems like a fair deal....talent, term, needs of both teams. Just think Carolina says no. TVR is injured and is a UFA in a year, Faulk UFA in a year, Hamilton UFA in a year. That's the other three RHD. That leaves Pesce as the only long term RHD.
Give away Perrault and then be cap compliant with three ELCs

No summering in Winnipeg and going to the a festival won't be that enticing for Duchene to endure the Winnipeg winters and the the travel schedule the Jets have nod


Hamilton has 2 years left though
Jun. 15, 2019 at 11:53 a.m.
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It’s a minimum 20 man roster, and does not have to be 23. If you subtract the overpays for Laine and Duchene this team would have the space.


They may be over pays but that's probably what they want so that's what I gave them in this, Skinner's contract changed the market a bit as welk. I could've also traded Perreault or Kulikov away for some space but just didn't bother cause when you do the conversation revolves around the cap dump trades usually.. Lol
Jun. 15, 2019 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
They may be over pays but that's probably what they want so that's what I gave them in this, Skinner's contract changed the market a bit as welk. I could've also traded Perreault or Kulikov away for some space but just didn't bother cause when you do the conversation revolves around the cap dump trades usually.. Lol


I get it. I think Laine believes he’s a 10 mill + player. I would agree once he’s more consistent, and better defensively. I believe he’d be leaving money on the table if he takes a long term deal now. The Duchene deal I think would be more reasonable with that kind of term.

I didn’t like someone calling it down for a reason that isn’t true though. The 23 man roster B.S
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Jun. 15, 2019 at 12:43 p.m.
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I get it. I think Laine believes he’s a 10 mill + player. I would agree once he’s more consistent, and better defensively. I believe he’d be leaving money on the table if he takes a long term deal now. The Duchene deal I think would be more reasonable with that kind of term.

I didn’t like someone calling it down for a reason that isn’t true though. The 23 man roster B.S


Yeah I feel the same about Laine, heard he's looking for a long term deal though don't know if there's any truth to it. A deal like this would be him deciding to take some security over possibly leaving some money on the table that could of been there but maybe not if he doesn't get it all together and the Jets kind of overpay him now given his game has holes in it but in the hopes his game rounds out, there's risks for both parties involved but there usually always is. I didn't want to do a bridge deal cause the convo would probably get bogged down in that rather then on the Connor trade or Duchene signing.. Lol

As for Duchene I've heard he's going to wherever he gets the most $$ and yeah Winnipeg isn't a likely landing spot for him but he'd fit well with Laine and Ehlers so paid him well with $$+term to entice him, highly unlikely but ya never know and since this is all hypothetical anyway that's the way I went.

I agree about the 23 man roster thing, teams could go lean if they wanted to and just rely on call ups when necessary. Like if a player is injured for say a week you can replace him with a callup and it doesn't effect the cap correct? Or in this scenario as I have it let's say Perreault got hurt and was out a week and they called up some guy from their farm team that makes $750K would that put them over the cap?
Jun. 15, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.
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What happened to Trouba??????
Jun. 15, 2019 at 12:57 p.m.
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What happened to Trouba??????


Hahahahaha!.. thanks, I totally forgot about him, had I remembered to move him I could've made other improvements to the lineup.. ?
Shows how done I am with the Trouba discussions, wish they'd just trade him already.. Lol
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Jun. 15, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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Yeah I feel the same about Laine, heard he's looking for a long term deal though don't know if there's any truth to it. A deal like this would be him deciding to take some security over possibly leaving some money on the table that could of been there but maybe not if he doesn't get it all together and the Jets kind of overpay him now given his game has holes in it but in the hopes his game rounds out, there's risks for both parties involved but there usually always is. I didn't want to do a bridge deal cause the convo would probably get bogged down in that rather then on the Connor trade or Duchene signing.. Lol

As for Duchene I've heard he's going to wherever he gets the most $$ and yeah Winnipeg isn't a likely landing spot for him but he'd fit well with Laine and Ehlers so paid him well with $$+term to entice him, highly unlikely but ya never know and since this is all hypothetical anyway that's the way I went.

I agree about the 23 man roster thing, teams could go lean if they wanted to and just rely on call ups when necessary. Like if a player is injured for say a week you can replace him with a callup and it doesn't effect the cap correct? Or in this scenario as I have it let's say Perreault got hurt and was out a week and they called up some guy from their farm team that makes $750K would that put them over the cap?


It’s pretty tough to predict what players want and what they’ll get with the media, and the cap going up.
Can’t really use comparable players right now either, tax discrepancy and cap uncertainty.

Winnipeg like San Jose is good because they can get away with a 20 man roster most nights at home cause the AHL team is in the same place. Depending on how many, time of season, and what type of injury (short/long term) the levels of cap relief change. Typically teams on the road or after trade deadline will want to at least have an extra forward and defenseman on the roster. In a perfect world 2 million in cap space with a 20 man roster is good. There’s all kinds of emergency situation cap relief and loop holes though. It’s tough to understand it all.
Jun. 15, 2019 at 1:15 p.m.
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What happened to Trouba??????


I edited it with a Trouba trade.
Jun. 15, 2019 at 1:22 p.m.
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It’s pretty tough to predict what players want and what they’ll get with the media, and the cap going up.
Can’t really use comparable players right now either, tax discrepancy and cap uncertainty.

Winnipeg like San Jose is good because they can get away with a 20 man roster most nights at home cause the AHL team is in the same place. Depending on how many, and what type of injury the levels of cap relief change. Typically teams on the road or after trade deadline will want to at least have an extra forward and defenseman on the roster. In a perfect world 2 million in cap space with a 20 man roster is good. There’s all kinds of emergency situation cap relief and loop holes though. It’s tough to understand it all.


Yeah I'm sure there's a way to make it work with a 20 man roster and minimal cap space if a team wants to do it, even if they have enough cap to carry a cheap 7th defenseman and dress him as a 4th line winger on a road game if they have to.
 
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