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Created by: cnb17
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2019
Published: Jun. 17, 2019
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Read a report that Philly isn't going to sign any of their FA goaltenders, so getting a high 2nd for Jarry could work out for the Pens. Buyout JJ, cause that's they only way the Pens are going to move him, and sign a decent top 9/bottom 6 winger. Simple.

Lines might need to be adjusted to get the right chemistry.
Free Agent Signings
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2$925,000
2$1,750,000
2$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,200,000
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PIT
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (PHI)
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2019
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2020
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2021
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23$83,000,000$79,037,083$132,500$2,850,000$3,962,917
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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UFA - 3
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C, LW
UFA - 2
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UFA
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RD
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UFA - 3
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UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
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UFA - 1
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RD
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UFA - 1
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G
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$833,750$833,750
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$750,000$750,000
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Jun. 17, 2019 at 12:18 p.m.
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wtf is that Lindberg signing..
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Jun. 17, 2019 at 12:22 p.m.
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wtf is that Lindberg signing..


It's double what he made last year I know......but it's hard to tell with FA's on what THEY think there value is. Didn't want to seem like I was undercutting. If the Pens sign him for $2mil - $2.5mil then GREAT! But I believe that is a simple player to go get as his "demand" may not be so high. And he's a decent top 9/ bottom 6 winger which is what the Pens need.
Jun. 17, 2019 at 12:46 p.m.
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It's double what he made last year I know......but it's hard to tell with FA's on what THEY think there value is. Didn't want to seem like I was undercutting. If the Pens sign him for $2mil - $2.5mil then GREAT! But I believe that is a simple player to go get as his "demand" may not be so high. And he's a decent top 9/ bottom 6 winger which is what the Pens need.


Very confused how you think .36 PPG is worth over 3 million. You already have 2 guys that produced at a higher rate (.39 PPG) and are on cheaper contracts (Simon & ZAR). Bottom 6 is not the issue with this team, they need consistent secondary scoring as well as a shutdown 3rd/4th line.
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Jun. 17, 2019 at 1:51 p.m.
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Very confused how you think .36 PPG is worth over 3 million. You already have 2 guys that produced at a higher rate (.39 PPG) and are on cheaper contracts (Simon & ZAR). Bottom 6 is not the issue with this team, they need consistent secondary scoring as well as a shutdown 3rd/4th line.


Is the 3rd or 4th line not the bottom 6??? If you're saying that the Pens need a shutdown 3rd or 4th line and I'm saying their bottom six needs to improve.....I think we're saying the same thing.

And Lindberg is a shut down guy. If we can get ZAR and Blueger to be shutdown guys....then you have a 4th line shut down line. Simple. Problem solved.

Agreed about the consistent scoring but that really needs to come from the top 6. And the Pens have NO cap space to improve on that. So getting the bottom 6 more stable and defensive is what the Pens need to look at. IMO.
Jun. 17, 2019 at 2:02 p.m.
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Is the 3rd or 4th line not the bottom 6??? If you're saying that the Pens need a shutdown 3rd or 4th line and I'm saying their bottom six needs to improve.....I think we're saying the same thing.

And Lindberg is a shut down guy. If we can get ZAR and Blueger to be shutdown guys....then you have a 4th line shut down line. Simple. Problem solved.

Agreed about the consistent scoring but that really needs to come from the top 6. And the Pens have NO cap space to improve on that. So getting the bottom 6 more stable and defensive is what the Pens need to look at. IMO.


Yeah 3rd/4th line is the bottom 6 but we are not saying the same thing. Paying 3 million for a 4th line defensive winger when you already have one at 750K that you chose to scratch instead is poor use of what little cap space is available. As of right now they don't have a whole lot of cap space but I think Rutherford is 1 trade away from dumping a bad contract (Johnson) and maybe losing one of Kessel/Hornqvist but having that available cap to make a splash in FA to get a LW for Gino.
Jun. 17, 2019 at 2:16 p.m.
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Yeah 3rd/4th line is the bottom 6 but we are not saying the same thing. Paying 3 million for a 4th line defensive winger when you already have one at 750K that you chose to scratch instead is poor use of what little cap space is available. As of right now they don't have a whole lot of cap space but I think Rutherford is 1 trade away from dumping a bad contract (Johnson) and maybe losing one of Kessel/Hornqvist but having that available cap to make a splash in FA to get a LW for Gino.


I get what you're saying and I don't believe that Kessel or Hornqvist get moved so maybe Jugs.....Simon isn't a defensive minded forward IMO and isn't worth the skates he's on. I like what you're saying about getting Malkin and better LW but I just don't see that being an option with the lack of cap space for the Pens. Unless, like you said, they can move Kessel (huge mistake) or Hornqvist (which I think is the better move but not sure what the return would be...maybe a 2nd or 3rd? but I don't think you get a young prospect) I just don't see the top 6 getting better than what they SHOULD have been last year. Cuz on paper, the top 6 should be solid.
Jun. 17, 2019 at 2:28 p.m.
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I get what you're saying and I don't believe that Kessel or Hornqvist get moved so maybe Jugs.....Simon isn't a defensive minded forward IMO and isn't worth the skates he's on. I like what you're saying about getting Malkin and better LW but I just don't see that being an option with the lack of cap space for the Pens. Unless, like you said, they can move Kessel (huge mistake) or Hornqvist (which I think is the better move but not sure what the return would be...maybe a 2nd or 3rd? but I don't think you get a young prospect) I just don't see the top 6 getting better than what they SHOULD have been last year. Cuz on paper, the top 6 should be solid.


Simon is one of the most reliable and defensive minded forwards on the team, not sure how you could say otherwise. And not worth the skates he's on? You are suggesting they pay Lindberg over 3 million to do less than Simon does at 750K ... I am not understanding your logic. I don't think trading Kessel is a huge mistake, he can't do anything 5v5 and is absolutely brutal on his off-wing on the PP. I think his numbers only go down from here and if he can be moved to get rid of Johnson and get a decent return (a young guy, few picks), it will clear up space to allow Rutherford to go after a dangerous winger for Gino and put Kahun on his right side. They now have many wingers that they can rotate in and out of the top 6 to find the right fit but one more elite winger is needed.
 
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