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San Jose Sharks signed Erik Karlsson (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)

Was this a good signing?
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Jun 17 at 2:31
#51
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Quoting: mk458
Someone has to be on their way out, right?


Justin Braun probably gets traded to clear some additional space. He'd be a good, cheap pickup for a team like Toronto that needs help on their right side. I'm not familiar enough with the Sharks system to know who could replace him though.
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Jun 17 at 3:11
#52
Steve
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3 years of elite injury plagued seasons
2 years of slightly above average injury plagued seasons
3 years of LTIR
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Jun 17 at 3:12
#53
fence
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Erik Karlsson is so good that signing him is a victory, and the term and money are irrelevant.
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Jun 17 at 3:14
#54
MK458
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Quoting: JayTea
Justin Braun probably gets traded to clear some additional space. He'd be a good, cheap pickup for a team like Toronto that needs help on their right side. I'm not familiar enough with the Sharks system to know who could replace him though.


Oh yeah, I figured Braun leaving is almost a guarantee at this point. I was thinking maybe someone else, but looking at their roster, it's not like they have many guys that are overpaid or anything.
Jun 17 at 3:19
#55
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Quoting: DDoverChucky
With a healthy Karlsson they could have won the Cup. No one else has 2 Norris trophy defensemen in their lineup.

Knowing that the Sharks are in win-now mode, would you as SJ's GM really pass on this guy because the deal is a bit too long???


Would you as SJ's GM really pass on this guy because the deal is a bit too long???

A bit ..... LMAO.

Good one dude.
Jun 17 at 3:20
#56
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Hey SJS:

r/woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
Jun 17 at 3:33
#57
Discord COL's GM
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To be real honest that's a bad deal considering his injury history.
Jun 17 at 3:35
#58
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Face palm
Jun 17 at 3:39
#59
AwesomeMatthews
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
TOO MUCH TERM.


I hate this and I'm a Sharks fan
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Jun 17 at 4:02
#60
rangersandislesfan
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Whether it's a good signing or not, the "Erik Karlsson thing" that's been going on since late 2017 is FINALLY done.
Jun 17 at 4:24
#61
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Quoting: Bf3351
They will have 2 two-time norris trophy winners by the start of next season and still suck...


You want to bet on that?
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Jun 17 at 4:30
#62
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: Laudan
Guy deserves it both, money and term. GL EK

At his 36 he will be still better then 85% of Ds in the League.


That’s a bold prediction... this is a bad signing for the Sharks. Maybe a younger team it would have been okay.

Sharks will have 35m tied up in 4 guys 30+ who are signed for atleast another 7 years. Yikes!!!
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Jun 17 at 4:53
#63
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Edited Jun 17 at 5:02
$11.5 x 8 for a defenseman who's not good at defence, and is only going to get worse, and injured more often? 🤣
Add that to Burns, another defenseman who's not good at defence, and you have a match made in hell.

You now have only $12.5 million to sign your players, including Labanc, Meier and Pavelski. Good luck.
Jun 17 at 5:08
#64
Misanthropic Thunder
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I guess the Sharks will have to worry about the back end of this deal when it happens. And if i'm not mistaken, a player can wave the NTC if they chose? I don't see that as a big deal. When a player reaches an elite level, shouldn't they have control over where they play?
Jun 17 at 5:48
#65
fence
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Quoting: TheCandoRailfan
$11.5 x 8 for a defenseman who's not good at defence, and is only going to get worse, and injured more often? 🤣
Add that to Burns, another defenseman who's not good at defence, and you have a match made in hell.

You now have only $12.5 million to sign your players, including Labanc, Meier and Pavelski. Good luck.


Being "not good at defense" is more than outweighed by all the puck possession and offensive production that they both contribute to.
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Jun 17 at 6:03
#66
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In year 4 this will be a Lucic tier contract
Jun 17 at 6:39
#67
GM67
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91 NO votes to 12 YES votes at this point. Do you think this tells you anything San Jose GM??? WAY too long of term at that Cap hit and while he's really good he is NOT 11.5 million a year good. Sad to say but the Sharks got bite on this deal.
Jun 17 at 6:42
#68
BtZ's buttercup
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This is the worst contract of all the 10+ AAV contracts by far :

Kane, Towes, Tavares, McDavid, Doughty, and Matthews
Jun 17 at 6:44
#69
Go Leafs Go
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Contract is good in the short term 2-3 years. After that, the contract will be terrible value. Gotta give it to the Sharks who want to win now, but we are going to see some tough times in the cap salary world of the Sharks.
Jun 17 at 8:27
#70
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Quoting: Trickster
This is the worst contract of all the 10+ AAV contracts by far :

Kane, Towes, Tavares, McDavid, Doughty, and Matthews


Price? Eichel?
Jun 17 at 8:47
#71
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So they win the trade now, but may now lose long term. I was predicting $10.5M for 7 so this isn’t that far in excess. SJ gave him the 8th year (something no other team can offer of course) to make it happen. Given Karlsson’s recent injury issues, I don’t know if 6 or 7y vs 8y will make much difference. Were it any other player even 4y could be risky as hell. He could rebound and continue to be an elite D-Man for years to come and this may not look too bad.

But between Burns, Vlasic, and Karlsson, this blueline is going to be grey (and expensive) for a long time. So in the larger picture of where this team is at, it’s a terrible deal.
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Jun 17 at 8:52
#72
habs_fan
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they screwed themsevles over
Jun 17 at 10:19
#73
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When the average fan knows it's too long, you know the shift for signing older players to these long term deals isn't far away.
This was a mistake, plain and simple.
Jun 17 at 11:34
#74
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It’s all up to Karlsson and that Training staff.. if he can stay healthy and keep his workouts and stretches in constant then this will be a great deal. At 100% he’s the best in the game.
Jun 17 at 11:45
#75
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
The term isn't a shock either. Everyone he was going to get max term, regardless of it was 7 or 8 years, and that the contract was going to be huge and likely not team-friendly.


I'm not surprised in the sense that Karlsson got max term. I'm just surprised that he got the $$$ and the term, especially from SJS. How are they gonna pay for Meier and Pavelski now?
 
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