On the PIT trade, I don't think you would have to give up that much to get Jarry since goalies are such question marks when it comes to compensation. I would say Hudon and a pick is plenty, or even just a 2nd or 3rd rounder. I do like Jarry's game though, I think he's got a good shot at becoming a full-time split goalie and eventually can handle 60+ games. His reflexes remind me of MAF, but he is small so sometimes can get sniped. Overall good fundamental and quick goalie.

Hudon should definitely be in Rutherford's mind, he'll come cheap. But he will probably do a Duclair and hit UFA status. As for the trade, why not do a 2nd if Jarry appears in 30 games (for the Habs) and the Habs make the playoffs, if not just a 3rd?

I think the conditional pick is a smart move, and could totally be worth it in the end. Even if he does play in 20-30 games, his next contract would still come on cheap. I think your idea of a 3rd rounder (2nd if he plays in X of games) is enough to get the trade done in itself. Again, I just think it's so hard to gauge goalies and what they are worth until they play enough NHL games. But at least with Jarry it's more of a gamble for a future goalie rather than a back up, like Cam Talbot or Jake Allen would be.

I don't mind the CGY trade but Lehkonen won't be moved, try Shaw and a 4th rounder instead. Also, love the enthusiasm on that Anaheim trade. Weise will be buried in the minors, Peca could be as well but could be included in a salary dump trade with 50% being retained by Habs. I like the idea of a VGK trade where we take back a LD and a forward with salary for Peca (50%) and maybe a pick or two, depending on the quality of players coming back.

good point. I don't know if I see Jarry as a future 1A, but maybe a 1B once he has more experience and a guy like Spencer Knight is emerging in the NHL, he could fetch a pretty penny from a team in need. The Habs have Primeau as the heir-to-be (seems that way anyways) but it's never a bad thing to have too many good players and a desired position (see Anaheim sends Andersen to Toronto). My issue with Pittsburgh is that they'll only do this if they can flip the pick for tangible, win now assets, which is tough to do on a conditional pick

That's not a bad idea, sure Hudon might be a good cheap asset for Rutherford, and it's not a big asset for habs because he will not receive offer. If we trade for Jarry, Lindgren or McNiven have to be part of the deal, because with Primeau in AHL, we will have too much goalies. IMO Lindgren isn't enough constant to get the NHL backup spot, but Jarry is.

Basically, by giving up Lindgren (who would be useless if Jarry comes), and by giving up Hudon (who won't receive qualifying offer), it will downgrade the pick we offer from a 2nd to a 4th.

Good point. only way this happens is pre-draft. Then, a qualifying offer can be put forward by the Pens to Hudon. I'm also not convinced that Lindgren has enough value to push this trade through. McNiven might be a better option on their end of things.