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New cap try

Created by: melloni17
Initial Creation Date: Jun 23, 2019
Published: Jun 23 at 4:06 pm
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Girgensons, Zemgus2$1,750,000
Larsson, Johan2$1,750,000
McCabe, Jake3$2,500,000
Rodrigues, Evan2$1,500,000
Ullmark, Linus2$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dzingel, Ryan5$5,000,000
Benn, Jordie2$2,250,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Kreider, Chris
  2. Vesey, Jimmy
NYR
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Girgensons, Zemgus
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
2nd becomes a 1st if Kreider resigns
BUF
  1. Haula, Erik
  2. Miller, Colin
VGK
  1. Nylander, Alexander
  2. Larsson, Johan
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (STL)
BUF
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Bogosian, Zach ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Retaining half the salary moves the pick from 4th to 3rd
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
  • Ville Leino: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Zach Bogosian: $2,500,000 (48.61%)
Buried
  • Vladimír Sobotka: $2,425,000 ($3,500,000)
  • Matt Hunwick: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
BUF
VAN
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,196,667$0$4,257,500$303,333
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$3,650,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$4,625,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
VGK
Haula, Erik
$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Dzingel, Ryan
$5,000,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$767,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Vesey, Jimmy
$2,275,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Sheary, Conor
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Rodrigues, Evan
$1,500,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,387,500
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$1,750,000
G
RFA - 1
Benn, Jordie
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
VGK
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Pilut, Lawrence
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Wilson, Scott
$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Jun 23 at 4:17
#1
Sabres are elite
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How are you planning on resigning anyone with no cap space. Reinhart, Montour, Mitts, Kreider, Pilut, Olofsson all need contracts
Jun 23 at 4:22
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Quoting: Skyraider112
How are you planning on resigning anyone with no cap space. Reinhart, Montour, Mitts, Kreider, Pilut, Olofsson all need contracts


Without those players signed there is approximately 16.5mil in cap space to work with! Mitts and Pilut get bridge deals. Olofson hasn't proved anything yet, contract will be minimal. Reinhart, Montour and Kreider are the big contracts. Assuming the cap will go up somewhat the following year there is room to work. And that is not including Hunwick and Sobotka dropping off.
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Jun 23 at 4:23
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Quoting: melloni17
Without those players signed there is approximately 16.5mil in cap space to work with! Mitts and Pilut get bridge deals. Olofson hasn't proved anything yet, contract will be minimal. Reinhart, Montour and Kreider are the big contracts. Assuming the cap will go up somewhat the following year there is room to work. And that is not including Hunwick and Sobotka dropping off.


Also forgot the money for Haula coming off!
Jun 23 at 4:31
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Your player valuation is ....interesting
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Jun 23 at 4:43
#5
Shibbal18
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Girgensons and Larsson are about to walk not getting tendered, why would NYR or VGK want any part of those trades
Jun 23 at 4:45
#6
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Girgensons and Larsson are about to walk not getting tendered, why would NYR or VGK want any part of those trades


Both were tendered qualifying offers.
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Jun 23 at 4:47
#7
SabresFan1996
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Zemgus and Larsson recived qualifying offers from sabres
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Jun 23 at 5:00
#8
future lamentation
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Girgensons and Larsson are about to walk not getting tendered, why would NYR or VGK want any part of those trades


What do you know that the rest of the world does not:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2019/06/19/ap-source-sabres-retain-rights-to-girgensons-larsson/39603657/
Now that they have been given qualifying offers, I guess they could go to Europe, but I think they will still appear on the Sabres' reserve squad even if they do that.
Jun 23 at 5:09
#9
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Girgensons and Larsson are about to walk not getting tendered, why would NYR or VGK want any part of those trades


I mean, they were both tendered
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Jun 23 at 5:15
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: DahlinOlofsson67
Zemgus and Larsson recived qualifying offers from sabres


Quoting: melloni17
Both were tendered qualifying offers.


Gross
Jun 23 at 5:25
#11
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Gross


My guess is so they can be used in trades. Retaining a layers rights is always the best option. Even if they are traded later for a late round pick you end up getting something for them instead of letting them walk for nothing.
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Jun 23 at 6:48
#12
Sabres are elite
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Quoting: melloni17
Without those players signed there is approximately 16.5mil in cap space to work with! Mitts and Pilut get bridge deals. Olofson hasn't proved anything yet, contract will be minimal. Reinhart, Montour and Kreider are the big contracts. Assuming the cap will go up somewhat the following year there is room to work. And that is not including Hunwick and Sobotka dropping off.


Thats not nearly enough:

Reinhart will get 8-9
Montour will get 5-6
Kreider will get 7-8
Olofsson will get 2-3
Mittelstadt will get 3-4
Pilut will get 3-4

With the cap coming off from expiring contracts, you only get back around 7 mil. If the cap rises to 85 that gives you 11 mil. The raises I just mentioned are over 15 and that's lowballing
Jun 23 at 7:35
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Quoting: Skyraider112
Thats not nearly enough:

Reinhart will get 8-9
Montour will get 5-6
Kreider will get 7-8
Olofsson will get 2-3
Mittelstadt will get 3-4
Pilut will get 3-4

With the cap coming off from expiring contracts, you only get back around 7 mil. If the cap rises to 85 that gives you 11 mil. The raises I just mentioned are over 15 and that's lowballing


You are not considering the money they already make as part of your salaries. At the end of the season there will be approximately 28 to 30 million available! If you signed everyone on your list to the high end of your projections it will take 34 million to sign them all! Obviously this team will not stand pat next offseason! Plus you will lose 1 contract to Seattle! You can probably get Okposo to waive and pay them in draft pick compensation to take him! If not there is still another contract gone! Did you miss the buried contracts and the 2.5 for the retention of Bogo? That's almost 7 million right there! Your math is way off!!

That being said none of this is really likely to begin with!
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Jun 24 at 11:55
#14
Tspky
Joined: Feb 2016
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lol what is that rangers trade.

Vesey >> any player in that deal
Kreider >> 2nd round pick

If you want vesey and kreider it'll be Nylander + unprotected 1st
 
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