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Another Marner Trade

Created by: mattyicemattyslice
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 24, 2019
Published: Jun. 24, 2019
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cry about the return
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,400,000
3$3,200,000
2$2,800,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Marner, Mitchell [RFA Rights]
2.
VGK
  1. Borgman, Andreas
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (VAN)
4.
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,019,699$0$215,000$1,480,301
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,800,000$2,800,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jun. 24, 2019 at 1:56 p.m.
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Parayko is very good.... not worth Marner, al sundqvist doesn’t make up the difference, I’d much rather either have Marner sign or take 4 firsts
Jun. 24, 2019 at 1:59 p.m.
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You Leafs fans are outta your mind. Give Dubas a little bit of slack. Stop trying to trade Marner, it doesn’t make any sense.
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 1:59 p.m.
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Before the Subban trade I would have done something like Marner for Ellis and Arvidsson.

You need to get a top 4 RD and a top 6 forward for him to fill out your roster.

If they keep Marner, then you move Nylander or Kappy for a top 4 RD as both can't play in your top 6 forward group
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
You Leafs fans are outta your mind. Give Dubas a little bit of slack. Stop trying to trade Marner, it doesn’t make any sense.


its an arm chair GM bud, this isnt real stuff lmao
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
You Leafs fans are outta your mind. Give Dubas a little bit of slack. Stop trying to trade Marner, it doesn’t make any sense.


Only way they trade him is if he signs an offer sheet. If it is to much, I would rather match and trade him, instead of the picks. 4 1st rounders are great but Marner leaves a huge hole and they can't wait for unknown players to develop when they are in win now mode
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Hackadart
Parayko is very good.... not worth Marner, al sundqvist doesn’t make up the difference, I’d much rather either have Marner sign or take 4 firsts


good to hear I would rather keep Parayko anyway. Marner has inflated stats from Tavares.
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:02 p.m.
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Marner is overrated
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Quoting: Caniac555
You Leafs fans are outta your mind. Give Dubas a little bit of slack. Stop trying to trade Marner, it doesn’t make any sense.


Yeah because Carolina is going to sign Aho and Duchene to 6.8M. That seems realistic.

Your teams are worse than what people are putting out here.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:03 p.m.
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good to hear I would rather keep Parayko anyway. Marner has inflated stats from Tavares.


Lmfao, watch a game before you make yourself look even more silly
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:05 p.m.
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Only way they trade him is if he signs an offer sheet. If it is to much, I would rather match and trade him, instead of the picks. 4 1st rounders are great but Marner leaves a huge hole and they can't wait for unknown players to develop when they are in win now mode


You realize you can trade the 4 1st round picks, there's no rule saying you have to keep them.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:05 p.m.
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ehhh im a Marner fan but i would do that deal, the d core of the team becomes wayy better and you have good pieces on both wings too.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:06 p.m.
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Lmfao, watch a game before you make yourself look even more silly


I do watch games. Shooting it down the ice to Tavares so he can drive in a shot and score is not an "assist".
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:07 p.m.
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I do watch games. Shooting it down the ice to Tavares so he can drive in a shot and score is not an "assist".


Bahahahhaa, You cannot possibly comprehend how dumb you sound, please do yourself a favour and don’t reply anymore
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
You Leafs fans are outta your mind. Give Dubas a little bit of slack. Stop trying to trade Marner, it doesn’t make any sense.


Have you read what his dad has done and is doing?
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: ninetythreein93
You realize you can trade the 4 1st round picks, there's no rule saying you have to keep them.


I signed Marner has more value then the 4 1sts
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
good to hear I would rather keep Parayko anyway. Marner has inflated stats from Tavares.


This is true, but admitting this does not go well with the "f*** the leafs narrative" so people don't like to admit it
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:10 p.m.
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Bahahahhaa, You cannot possibly comprehend how dumb you sound, please do yourself a favour and don’t reply anymore


bahahaha you actually believe yourself. then how does Tarasenko have better OZs% better CF% Better Rel CF%. Parayko is also one of the best Defensive guys we have if not the best. Marner Team Quality CF is at a mid 60s, and Quality Opponent is at a high 40s. Just shows how carried he can get sometimes with Matthews and Tavares on his team. If he moved in with us he wouldn't ever be good. I would much rather keep Parayko "Official Biased Leafs Fan"
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:11 p.m.
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Quoting: nchest
I signed Marner has more value then the 4 1sts


Not at $10M+ sorry you can't have 3 forwards taking up 40% of the cap, Toronto has made the decision that Matthews & Tavares are the big dogs. With 4 1st round picks they can easily acquire the D they need and a top 6 forward
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:12 p.m.
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Bahahahhaa, You cannot possibly comprehend how dumb you sound, please do yourself a favour and don’t reply anymore


I'm a leaf fan but he is kind of right. Marner might be the most overrated top line player of all time
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:15 p.m.
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bahahaha you actually believe yourself. then how does Tarasenko have better OZs% better CF% Better Rel CF%. Parayko is also one of the best Defensive guys we have if not the best. Marner Team Quality CF is at a mid 60s, and Quality Opponent is at a high 40s. Just shows how carried he can get sometimes with Matthews and Tavares on his team. If he moved in with us he wouldn't ever be good. I would much rather keep Parayko "Official Biased Leafs Fan"


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QYW-ZSS5x-4
Take 3 min of your life to see some amazing Hockey, here are 25 assists playing with decent but not carrying players Bozak, Kadri and JVR.... and this was when he was a rookie, he is even better now
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:17 p.m.
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I'm a leaf fan but he is kind of right. Marner might be the most overrated top line player of all time


Dude I love JT but he never in a 9 year career hit 40 goals... one year with Mitch and he has 47, they are two elite talents that feed off of each other amazingly, is called chemistry and it’s not a bad thing
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Hackadart
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QYW-ZSS5x-4
Take 3 min of your life to see some amazing Hockey, here are 25 assists playing with decent but not carrying players Bozak, Kadri and JVR.... and this was when he was a rookie, he is even better now


He isn't the one making the plays THIS Year that was LAST year. Which is literally irrelevant now. He is getting carried by his teammates THIS YEAR. Because THIS YEAR is relevant. That's like saying RG3 is worth it because he played good his rookie season. Marner isn't the one making the plays his teammates are.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:24 p.m.
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Dude I love JT but he never in a 9 year career hit 40 goals... one year with Mitch and he has 47, they are two elite talents that feed off of each other amazingly, is called chemistry and it’s not a bad thing


Correct but over all it only produced like 2 more points of JTs career high. Marner is not an elite goal scorer something that is huge in the NHL these days
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:28 p.m.
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He isn't the one making the plays THIS Year that was LAST year. Which is literally irrelevant now. He is getting carried by his teammates THIS YEAR. Because THIS YEAR is relevant. That's like saying RG3 is worth it because he played good his rookie season. Marner isn't the one making the plays his teammates are.


Damn, you are one stubborn fool aren’t you? I just showed you that he is an elite talent without elite line mates and your response is that he has elite line mates now so he isnt that elite talent anymore? That’s really the argument you are going with? JT never hit 40 goals in 9 seasons, plays with Marner and hits 47, but it’s mitch who benefiting from JT? Could it maybe be that when two elite talents play together they make one hell of a duo?
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:30 p.m.
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Correct but over all it only produced like 2 more points of JTs career high. Marner is not an elite goal scorer something that is huge in the NHL these days

Every goal scorer needs a playmaker and Mitch is one of the best play makers I’ve ever seen, not to mention he did score 26 so he can finish too, just not his main offering
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:31 p.m.
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Damn, you are one stubborn fool aren’t you? I just showed you that he is an elite talent without elite line mates and your response is that he has elite line mates now so he isnt that elite talent anymore? That’s really the argument you are going with? JT never hit 40 goals in 9 seasons, plays with Marner and hits 47, but it’s mitch who benefiting from JT? Could it maybe be that when two elite talents play together they make one hell of a duo?


1 Hell of a Duo. Again lmao you let the concept completely fly over your head. WHEN A PLAYER PASSES FROM IN HIS ZONE INTO ANOTHER THEN THAT PLAYER PASSES IT TO TAVARES TO SCORE IS NOT AN "ELITE" THREAT.
 
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