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Helllooooooooooooo Marner

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Team: 2019-20 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 24, 2019
Published: Jun. 24, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$950,000
7$13,000,000
2$2,200,000
5$4,000,000
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Marner, Mitchell$18,200,000
2020 1st round pick
2021 1st round pick
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$67,920,833$0$3,207,500$13,579,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
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$13,000,000$13,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
C
UFA - 3
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$2,325,000$2,325,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$749,167$749,167 (Performance Bonus$42,500$42K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C
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$925,000$925,000
RW
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 4
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$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,437,500$2,437,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:23 p.m.
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Wow talk about an overpayment. Marner>McDavid I guess cuz 13 Million a Year. Woofers.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Wow talk about an overpayment. Marner>McDavid I guess cuz 13 Million a Year. Woofers.


Agreed... I just think that's what it would take for Marner to sign an offer sheet...
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:26 p.m.
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Agreed... I just think that's what it would take for Marner to sign an offer sheet...


It's probably something that Toronto will just make him, an offer. I don't see him moving.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:26 p.m.
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Considering the lottery success New Jersey has had, I would love 4 of their first rounders
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:26 p.m.
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Agreed... I just think that's what it would take for Marner to sign an offer sheet...


Leafs will match anything up to (4) 1st round picks so $10.5M x 5 years is the max I'm guessing before the Leafs say fine....sign an offer sheet. Frankly, marner isn't worth (4) 1sts plus a bigger contract then that. A bigger contract without the (4) 1st round picks...maybe.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:29 p.m.
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Goodbye Taylor Hall
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:29 p.m.
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Why do people think Marner is worth four 1sts??
Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:31 p.m.
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If the Devils offer/sign Marner for even 11mil, they cannot and will not have sufficient cap space the following season to efficiently sign all prospects and role players. They will become Toronto 2.0
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Jun. 24, 2019 at 2:34 p.m.
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The Devils would be scary good if they could add Marner. I wonder if a deal similar to Matthews would scare off the Leafs. 11.6 x 5 would bring Marner to UFA at the same time as Matthews which would be a situation the Leafs would like to avoid if possible. Devils could go another route and offer something crazy like 15 x 3. The Leafs couldn't fit that cap hit, while I think the devils could make it work for the next 3 years before Hughes needs a new deal. Marner would still be a RFA I think and the Devils would still have his rights and look to lock him up long term then or move him if he under performs.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 3:02 p.m.
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The Devils would be scary good if they could add Marner. I wonder if a deal similar to Matthews would scare off the Leafs. 11.6 x 5 would bring Marner to UFA at the same time as Matthews which would be a situation the Leafs would like to avoid if possible. Devils could go another route and offer something crazy like 15 x 3. The Leafs couldn't fit that cap hit, while I think the devils could make it work for the next 3 years before Hughes needs a new deal. Marner would still be a RFA I think and the Devils would still have his rights and look to lock him up long term then or move him if he under performs.


In theory that all works but then we lose 4 firsts and you wind up not locking up marner long term.

I think the max an offer will come in at is just below the 4 (1st's) which I assume leafs match. It's unfortunate for Marner cause as "greedy" as everyone claims he is, he's right. He's as important to that team as anyone and if he wants closer to matthews money theres a team willing to pay him closer to matthews money, but the system restricts them from doing it. His issue is he performed too well and therefore maxed out his rfa contract at 10.5 unless someone decides they draft terribly anyway lol

In a league where there are tons of bad contracts marner at 11 or even 11.5 is not that bad. you have a 94 point player locked up till 30 at 11.5...what do you think the cap will be in 2027? lets not forget marner at 28 will likely be playing much better than tavares at 34. tavares got paid, matthews got paid, marner should get paid. the issue is he cant in toronto and rfa makes it so he cant elsewhere either. People saying he doesn't deserve mcdavid money are ignorant, deals are about timing, mcdavid took a discount to begin with, but he also signed before the cap rose. Hall won mvp at 6 million, literally speaking that means everyone else in the league should have been paid under and relative to that figure...that's just not how it works. Crosby I don't even think is paid in the top 10, does that mean jeff skinner shouldn't take what buffalo will pay him?

The conversation should be a team is willing to pay you this mitch. take it, or sign at this # to stay with your friends. Instead the O/S's heavily lopsided compensation creates this saga
Jun. 24, 2019 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: rednwhite
The Devils would be scary good if they could add Marner. I wonder if a deal similar to Matthews would scare off the Leafs. 11.6 x 5 would bring Marner to UFA at the same time as Matthews which would be a situation the Leafs would like to avoid if possible. Devils could go another route and offer something crazy like 15 x 3. The Leafs couldn't fit that cap hit, while I think the devils could make it work for the next 3 years before Hughes needs a new deal. Marner would still be a RFA I think and the Devils would still have his rights and look to lock him up long term then or move him if he under performs.


15x3 is stupid

When that contract expires they have to qualify him at least at $15MM to retain RFA rights. So marner would not accept anything less than $15MM at that point from the devils, or he could just walk right in to being a UFA.
Jun. 24, 2019 at 5:57 p.m.
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I agree it's stupid, I said they could do something crazy like that if they wanted to ensure they got him. It would be a horrible decision long term but if it gets them a cup may be worth the risk. I realize it's not happening though.
 
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