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Heres to all the haters who said KapJohn wouldnt be under 4 mil

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2019
Published: Jun. 28, 2019
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Pressure's on Mitch. Kap and Johnsson are signed. Heres to all the haters on Capfriendly who said that Kap/Johnsson wouldn't be signed for under 4 mil.
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Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:04 p.m.
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Lmao I don’t think anyone said that. I had them at the AAV they got and I got lit up by Leafs fans for it
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.
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Will be fun to be right about Mitch too when he signs for less than 10 mil. Dreger should lose his job after that.
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.
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Quoting: McFaksaGOAT
Lmao I don’t think anyone said that. I had them at the AAV they got and I got lit up by Leafs fans for it


I saw lots of people with them in the 4.5-5.5 range and offersheets for them at that and just crazy stuff man.
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:06 p.m.
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I saw lots of people with them in the 4.5-5.5 range and offersheets for them at that and just crazy stuff man.


Offersheets I get because that way they’re unmatchable. But if it was with the leafs than no way
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:08 p.m.
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as one of the people that said kap could have 4m+ via offersheet, it just goes to show how afraid of offer sheets gms really are. a 2nd round pick for kapanen ide do in a heartbeat. toronto matches, i then offer sheet johansson at same amount. now toronto has to either over pay for 2 guys albeit not that much over. or only get a 2nd in return.
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
as one of the people that said kap could have 4m+ via offersheet, it just goes to show how afraid of offer sheets gms really are. a 2nd round pick for kapanen ide do in a heartbeat. toronto matches, i then offer sheet johansson at same amount. now toronto has to either over pay for 2 guys albeit not that much over. or only get a 2nd in return.


gloaters...whatever you do, its never enough......overpaid...i mean....comeon
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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gloaters...whatever you do, its never enough......overpaid...i mean....comeon


I dont follow your logic. I never said they were overpaid. Im saying they would over pay in terms of what they just got. 3.2 compared to 4. and 3.4 compared to 4. 1.4m in additional cap hits for the next 3 years. thats 2 veteran players or almost what ron hainsey will sign for at 1.5
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:15 p.m.
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to all the leafs fans who had them both under 3... same
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: ScottRoth
to all the leafs fans who had them both under 3... same


Term / $$.....think again
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:16 p.m.
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My guess was Johnsson for 3.5 x4 Kap for 3 over 3

Also pitched that JOhnsson would not go to arb and neither kap or john would get offersheeted
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
Term / $$.....think again


no
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:22 p.m.
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I dont follow your logic. I never said they were overpaid. Im saying they would over pay in terms of what they just got. 3.2 compared to 4. and 3.4 compared to 4. 1.4m in additional cap hits for the next 3 years. thats 2 veteran players or almost what ron hainsey will sign for at 1.5


Thing is....real life GMs arent some butthurting revengive kids like some users of this site are....they think strategically, they are even friends, ex-teammates and similar.....so those offer-sheets arent thrown around like its NHL 2019.

Hainsey is out of picture, 1,4M is Gauthier playing 4th line and Rosen being in 3rd Pair.....not significant but it fills the roster
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
Thing is....real life GMs arent some butthurting revengive kids like some users of this site are....they think strategically, they are even friends, ex-teammates and similar.....so those offer-sheets arent thrown around like its NHL 2019.

Hainsey is out of picture, 1,4M is Gauthier playing 4th line and Rosen being in 3rd Pair.....not significant but it fills the roster


Im not butthurting or revengive. Im doing the exact same thing holmgren did to nashville with weber. Im trying to either poach a good player for compensation i think is worth it, or im at the very least raising his cap amount against a rival team. It makes sense and more teams should be doing it. They just dont want to spurn the league and when they inevitably get fired, want a job later as a gm.
Jun. 28, 2019 at 1:50 p.m.
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I had guessed Kapanen would be 3 x 3M and Johnsson would have bet on himself and went cheaper on shorter term 2 x $2.75M. I think Dubas finally figured out contract negotiations at the NHL level. He overpaid a bit on Nylander and took too long. He basically got bent over on the Mathews deal because of the pressure to avoid another holdout and he paid UFA price for an RFA without getting max term. These two deals are pretty good to get good middle six wingers on decent contracts over their SC window. Curious to find out how Marner's will go now that these ones are out of the way.
 
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