Kessel Holding Pens Hostage 3 Way Idea

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Quoting: pittsburghfan

You obviously don’t know anything about Gusev...

I would take Gusev over Kessel straight up. And the 1st next year with this team is probably gonna be #31 honestly.

Kessel is going to be moved or they’re firing Sullivan. One of the two is gonna happen from reports it seems that management, ownership and Sid/Geno are choosing Sullivan.

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:42 p.m.

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Zucker is better than Kessel. These moves (while I don't fully agree with them) extend the Penguins cup contention window by a year or 2

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:43 p.m.

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You would take an unproven guy over a ppg player and one of the better players at his position? Makes sense

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:44 p.m.

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Zucker is better than Kessel. These moves (while I don't fully agree with them) extend the Penguins cup contention window by a year or 2

Agreed.What part don’t you like?

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.

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You would take an unproven guy over a ppg player and one of the better players at his position? Makes sense

Not gonna argue cause you obviously don’t really know what you’re talking about but come back next April when Gusev outscores Kessel

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Quoting: ChampEddy

Not gonna argue cause you obviously don’t really know what you’re talking about but come back next April when Gusev outscores Kessel

Ok then so give reasoning if I dont really know

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.

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Agreed.What part don’t you like?

I'm just not comfortable with giving up 1st round picks for the next 2 years. Adding prospects to the farm system at this point is vital

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You would take an unproven guy over a ppg player and one of the better players at his position? Makes sense

Lol Kessel isn't even a top 10 player in the position he plays

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Zucker is better than Kessel. These moves (while I don't fully agree with them) extend the Penguins cup contention window by a year or 2

No he’s not lmao.

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Lol Kessel isn't even a top 10 player in the position he plays

he’s close. He’s right there with guys like Senko

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No he’s not lmao.

Yes he is. It's not even close, Zucker is the better player

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:48 p.m.

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he’s close. He’s right there with guys like Senko

He's dropped to around top 15-20

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Lol Kessel isn't even a top 10 player in the position he plays

Thats crazy you say that considering he was 6th in points at his position

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Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:49 p.m.

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I'm just not comfortable with giving up 1st round picks for the next 2 years. Adding prospects to the farm system at this point is vital

It’s not ideal but that’s what Pens have done for years and what they will continue to do. Doesn’t matter what happens in 3 Year’s. They are going to need to rebuild either way at that point and will likely lose Malkin. Pens are all in next 3 Year’s so prospects they pick in next couple drafts don’t really make much of a difference because they won’t make an impact for a few years. Most of the time it’s how you destroy a team and it’s an awful idea but the Pens are a special exception because of the last few years of the Crosby/Malkin/Letang window

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Thats crazy you say that considering he was 6th in points at his position

Points don't measure skill.

Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:50 p.m.

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Quoting: PenGoater99

He's dropped to around top 15-20

15-20??????? LMAOOOOOOO I would absolutely love for you to name 15-20 better RW's

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Yes he is. It's not even close, Zucker is the better player

I know it’s not all about points but kessel has outscored this guy every year of his career. And you can use the BS “BUt hE PlAyS wITh mAlKIn” narrative but even when he played on Toronto with bozak as he centre he was still elite. Sure kessel sucks defensively but that’s not his job. His job is to generate offence and he’s great at it. I’m all for trading kessel but not for the package listed and pens should do better than Zucker. I’d want a young, high ceiling forward back who hasn’t hit his peak yet. Similar to a 2017/18 Guzental

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Points don't measure skill.

Ok then name 15 better players than him at his position

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15-20??????? LMAOOOOOOO I would absolutely love for you to name 15-20 better RW's

People love to hate kessel and use him as a scapegoat when things go wrong. No idea why

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Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:51 p.m.

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Ok then so give reasoning if I dont really know

Check out his stats, watch highlights and a few KHL/World championship games. The guy is basically Panarin but less of a goal scorer and more of a playmaker. Is going to dominate this league just like he dominated KHL. Especially playing with Malkin.

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People love to hate kessel and use him as a scapegoat when things go wrong. No idea why

Some of the most idiotic statements I've ever read. Phil's job is offense. Put up goals in points. But apparently being a ppg player doesn't mean anything lmao

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Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:53 p.m.

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15-20??????? LMAOOOOOOO I would absolutely love for you to name 15-20 better RW's

Stone, Kucherov, Kane, Pastrnak, Wheeler, Arvidsson, Dadonov, Marner, Radulov, Gallagher, Kase, Tarasenko, Eberle, Atkinson, Marhessault.

I could even argue for lesser-known players like Lehkonen, Kapanen and Tuch

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Jun. 28, 2019 at 9:53 p.m.

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Pens don’t have many options for a Kessel trade. They get two players back. Zucker isn’t better than Kessel but he is a great player who would put up career highs on Pitt. Centrepiece of the deal is Gusev though. He is the best player out of all of them.

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