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Moving Provorov for Marner

Created by: Jaycee
Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2019
Published: Jun. 29, 2019
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RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,125,000
7$10,700,000
2$775,000
6$5,000,000
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1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2020 7th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Schlemko, David
  2. 2020 5th round pick (PHI)
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  1. Provorov, Ivan [RFA Rights]
  2. Ratcliffe, Isaac
  3. Voracek, Jakub
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (PHI)
3.
PHI
  1. 2020 4th round pick (EDM)
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2020
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22$81,500,000$71,773,651$0$2,995,000$9,726,349

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$3,571,429$3,571,429
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UFA - 7
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UFA - 6
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UFA - 1
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G
RFA - 2
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UFA - 4
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RD
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UFA - 5
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 4:02 a.m.
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No thanks. ps no one wants voracek.
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 4:28 a.m.
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No thanks. ps no one wants voracek.


Speak for yourself I'd happily take Voracek. But I'd want a top prospect or 1st or retention on Voracek in the above trade.
Jun. 29, 2019 at 4:29 a.m.
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Speak for yourself I'd happily take Voracek. But I'd want a top prospect or 1st or retention on Voracek in the above trade.

Why? And in a marner deal??? Really???
Jun. 29, 2019 at 4:40 a.m.
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Why? And in a marner deal??? Really???


Voracek is a tier below Marner sure but he's in the next tier of right wingers. He would be part of a package. The other part would be a top young d. In this case provorov. I think you could build around that. In fact I just made an AGM with it.
Jun. 29, 2019 at 5:10 a.m.
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Voracek is a tier below Marner sure but he's in the next tier of right wingers. He would be part of a package. The other part would be a top young d. In this case provorov. I think you could build around that. In fact I just made an AGM with it.[/quokonecnk but he's 29 has 5 years left at 8.25 also provorov is asking for 8 ×8 so that's over 16 mill committed for the next 5 years meaning we have to make a separate trade just to accommodate the money and thats not even including hagg also provorov is ledt handed so is the new 8 million dollar man our second pairing lhd or is it Reilly? Or do we have to move Reilly as well too accommodate this trade? All while they have a young goalie frost who was a greyhound and we know dubas loves his former greyhounds or Patrick and konecny all would be better options or would you rather extend Andersen whose been crap come playoff time although not really his fault as he gets overplayed
Do you see my point? Not saying voracek is bad but his contract is for the production u get wouldn't you rather have Duchenne at 10 or panarin at 11 not saying where getting them just that you can spend the money in FA or take 4 1st and trade them to make your team better also Tavares signed to play with mitch on the GTA line i dont think he would be to happy if u told him we traded marner but dont worry we got u voracek
lots of better options
Jun. 29, 2019 at 5:47 a.m.
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No thanks. ps no one wants voracek.


Now does anyone really want Zaitsev?
Jun. 29, 2019 at 6:02 a.m.
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Now does anyone really want Zaitsev?


No but some stupid gm will trade for him once all other options are gone!?
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Jun. 29, 2019 at 9:54 a.m.
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No thanks. ps no one wants voracek.


Wouldn’t say that, not like he just put up 85 points or anything. Nobody wants Zaitsev either at a 5 year deal. Voracek would be a very good piece playing next to Tavares or Matthews and u get a very promising young D man. But everyone has their own opinion.
Jun. 29, 2019 at 10:05 a.m.
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Wouldn’t say that, not like he just put up 85 points or anything. Nobody wants Zaitsev either at a 5 year deal. Voracek would be a very good piece playing next to Tavares or Matthews and u get a very promising young D man. But everyone has their own opinion.


Did you read my other response? Yes he's a decent player it's his age and contract both money n term and we would have to make at least one more move based on money coming back
He makes zero sense for Toronto especially as a big part of a Marner deal and i never said another team would want Zaitsev I've been on record literally saying once there are no more options left for teams a stupid gm will probably trade for him and i dont expect a big return for him also didn't even think to make it Myers instead of hagg? I mean we literally only habe 1 option on the right side that would be going in this deal
Jun. 29, 2019 at 10:13 a.m.
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Honestly, overpay for Marner... no value in Zaitsev and we’re giving away a potential franchise D, a 65 point winger and a 6’5 prospect who scored 50 goals in the O. Marners a good player, but this would be desperate
Jun. 29, 2019 at 10:38 a.m.
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Honestly, overpay for Marner... no value in Zaitsev and we’re giving away a potential franchise D, a 65 point winger and a 6’5 prospect who scored 50 goals in the O. Marners a good player, but this would be desperate


How would it be desperate? Marner is 21. He will grow with the young core of TK, Patrick Lindblom, Frost and Farabee coming up, as well as contribute now in a big way.
Jun. 29, 2019 at 10:43 a.m.
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Did you read my other response? Yes he's a decent player it's his age and contract both money n term and we would have to make at least one more move based on money coming back
He makes zero sense for Toronto especially as a big part of a Marner deal and i never said another team would want Zaitsev I've been on record literally saying once there are no more options left for teams a stupid gm will probably trade for him and i dont expect a big return for him also didn't even think to make it Myers instead of hagg? I mean we literally only habe 1 option on the right side that would be going in this deal

Myers instead of Hägg where?
Jun. 29, 2019 at 10:45 a.m.
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Myers instead of Hägg where?


In the proposed trade
Jun. 29, 2019 at 10:48 a.m.
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In the proposed trade


My bad Ratcliffe
Jun. 29, 2019 at 12:25 p.m.
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How would it be desperate? Marner is 21. He will grow with the young core of TK, Patrick Lindblom, Frost and Farabee coming up, as well as contribute now in a big way.


So you lose two major parts of that future in Ratcliffe and Provorov... we don’t need Marner for that kinda price
 
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