Leafs in 4 against this roster

cuz they got so much better right?

Leafs couldn’t beat anyone in four Even if they had the top 25 players in the game on their team cuz they are historical LOSERS but hey congrats on the July 1st win brother

Somewhat, but this team got older and worse.

heinen wont play 4th line. he would be that 3rd lw. kuhlman probably is depth or plays that 3rd rw slot. studnicka might play in providence this year, ide expect lindholm/ritchie to be that last 4th liner

you lost your center depth, still havent paid marner, and your defense only has 3 players on it. how is that getting better? also please tell me how this current team got older other than the current year that would be going by.

sorry 4 players. but everyone on here keeps trying to trade ceci away lol.

Meant to have Heinen on 3rd line kuhlman could be very good on 4th line with Kuraly he matches his speed and grinding ability with some scoring touch. I’d be fine with Heinen coyle kuhlman though

Kerfoot had the same amount of points as Kadri and is still great defensively. Kadri's minutes dropped off behind Matthews and Tavares, he was not as effective. With Spezza, the Leafs' center depth becomes Matthews-Tavares-Kerfoot-Spezza, which is JUST as good. Marner will get paid, that is not even a question, he'll sign in the 9-9.8M range. The top 4 D has dramatically improved, the Leafs had HAINSEY as a 1RD last season. Chara, Bergeron, Marchand, Krejci aren't getting any younger or better lmao.

HAHAHA you aren’t getting marner under 10.5 bud

krejci just had his best statistical year in 10 years. marchand just put up 100 points. Bergeron is still an elite center. Chara is old. You replaced gardiner with ceci and hainsey (better defensively than barrie) with barrie. BOTH guys that you just got back in trades are on expiring deals. spezza played pretty bad for the stars last year talk about not getting younger hes 38? Kerfoot may have had as many points as kadri, but he dropped ice time and his shooting percentage dropped from 15% to 8.7%. The only difference is, you know kadri is a 50 point player. Kerfoot has been in the league 2 years playing behind mackinnon, do we know what kerfoot is? shot 23% year 1 12% year 2. FO % 42% year 1 56% year 2.

Leafs fans smoke crack all day wow

Are you fried? Kuch just won the Hart with 128 points on a $9.5M contract as a winger. Aho, who CARRIED the canes as a 1C, just got $8.4M. If you think Marner gets 10.5 you're literally clueless or you just want to hate the leafs so bad lmfaooo. BIG yikes.

Great argument. I can tell you ooze intelligence.

Kucherov signed that deal BEFORE he put up 128 points aho is in a market that can’t pay that much money marner is on a team that he has LEAD in point the last two year and you think he is going to take less than Matthews and Tavares when he has outplayed them for TWO years. No he is getting 10.5 11 or else he would’ve signed already wake up and smell the coffee

kucherov plays in an income tax free state so that 9.5 in florida is 11-12 elsewhere. aho hasnt techically been locked into that deal yet. but you also arent figuring in toronto tax is higher than carolina.

Actually, that is Aho's contract no matter what, he signed it. Whether it is with the Canes or the Canadiens, his contract is guaranteed to be $8.4M x 5 years. Kucherov signed his contract after a 100 point season (a number Marner has still yet to eclipse). Regardless, his $9.5M number is still a comparable, but I agree with the income tax situation. Additionally, though, Toronto, as a huge hockey market, gives Marner much much more in endorsements and brand deals (beats, true, apple, intact), so that money lost in contract value is immediately made up for. If Marner was getting 10.5-11, he would have been signed by now, just as Matthews was. He is not getting 10.5 or 11M, period.

I'm awake and have already consumed coffee.

if kucherov is a comparable, than tavares and matthews have to be as well. Did you know matthews has only gotten to 73 points as his HIGHEST scoring year. And thats fine, Ahos contract is what it is, but it isnt officially a deal yet until carolina matches or declines to match. Marner has 27 more points over his career playing 1 less game. had 13 more points this year as well.

We are gunna have to wait and see. I’m saying 5x11

As an aside, Aho would make more money in endorsement in Montreal than in Carolina right? makes sense for him to sign a lower offersheet than he might get from say a nashville or a carolina. Aho also becomes a free agent at the end of his deal and would immediately get paid more money. in 5 years. why wouldnt he sign that? Marner has nothing to lose. He is already the highest scorer on the team two years running. He might be a wing but he does it all. if you take kucherovs 9.5 mill and discount it even a little bit but then adjust for income tax as i stated earlier that deal becomes 10.5+ in a taxable market.

Marner is the only winger out of those 4. Centers get paid more, for the longest time it has been that way. Marner is playing with a much better finisher in Tavares than Aho who played with Justin Williams and Nino. Marner's highest goal total is 26, so you know a lot of points are from Tavares finishing. Matthews has been plagued with injury in the last 2 seasons, his goal total was always on pace to surpass his 40-goal rookie season (and he just had 73 points, 37 goals in 68 GAME, you need to think about what he was on pace for). He is a pure sniper that will hit 50 in multiple seasons. Also just announced that Canes will match and Aho will get $8.4M over 5.

I dont think a single person on this Earth believed that the Canes wouldn't match that offer. Also, if you're going to adjust for income tax you need to adjust for the hockey market. Hockey is probably the fourth or fifth most popular professional sport in Florida, as you can tell by attendance (Panthers had an empty stadium all year, Tampa had fans out of nowhere because they were dominant last season). Marner easily makes up that same 2M difference in brand deals. He gets between 9 and 10.

How about this for a comp. the bread man just got 11.7 as a 27 year old playmaking winger. Marner is younger and arguably on par with him.

Yeah I had a feeling he would eventually be brought up. Panarin is a scorer himself, and the Rangers have no forward star as of right now. They had money to blow and the numbers are hyperinflated due to free agency. Typically, players also get paid more on their second contracts at 27.