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Why not Offersheet Marner

Created by: Canucks1
Initial Creation Date: Jul 4, 2019
Published: Jul 4, 2019 at 7:57
Team: 2019-20 Vancouver Canucks
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Boeser, Brock7$7,000,000
Leivo, Josh1$1,250,000
Goldobin, Nikolay1$1,100,000
Marner, Mitchell7$10,590,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell$14,826,000
2021 1st round pick
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
2024 1st round pick
Trades
VAN
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Sutter, Brandon
VAN
  1. 2020 4th round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Baertschi, Sven
VAN
  1. 2020 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Juolevi, Olli
Buyouts
  • Ryan Spooner: $1,033,333
Recapture Fees
  • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
Buried
  • Tim Schaller: $825,000 ($1,900,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
VAN
VAN
OTT
VAN
DET
ARI
VAN
VAN
ANA
2021
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2022
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,233,546$0$4,550,000$6,266,454
Left WingCenterRight Wing
VAN
Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 4
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
VAN
Boeser, Brock
$7,000,000
RW
RFA - 3
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
VAN
Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 4
Marner, Mitchell
$10,590,000
RW
UFA - 6
VAN
Leivo, Josh
$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
VAN
Gaudette, Adam
$916,667
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Goldobin, Nikolay
$1,100,000
LW
UFA - 1
VAN
Motte, Tyler
$975,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
VAN
Beagle, Jay
$3,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
VAN
Bailey, Justin
$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
VAN
Edler, Alexander
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
VAN
Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
VAN
Markström, Jacob
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1
VAN
Hughes, Quinn
$916,667
LD
RFA - 2
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
$4,450,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
$1,050,000
G
RFA - 2
VAN
Benn, Jordie
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
VAN
Stecher, Troy
$2,325,000
RD
UFA - 1
VAN
Fantenberg, Oscar
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
VAN
Biega, Alex
$825,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
VAN
Roussel, Antoine
$3,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3

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Jul 4, 2019 at 7:59
#1
Stars and Bolts fan
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Don't see him signing that. Not with that term.
Jul 4, 2019 at 8:05
#2
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With these 10.5 offersheets, tell me why Marner would be interested in that money from another team versus 10 in Toronto? It just doesn't check out. 12+? Sure. But he won't sign 10.5 unless he's certain Toronto would match.

Marner has to sign the contract people.
Jul 4, 2019 at 8:09
#3
Ryanma260
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 32
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If you guys offer sheet 14 million to Marner, I think all Leafs fans including myself would be very happy to take the four first round picks and watch as your GM struggles to build a contender around your core because Marner's taking up 18% of your cap xD. Man, Leafs fans get the best of both worlds, playoffs every year AND a participant in the Draft Lottery too? ohhhh mannnn good times are comin bois
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Jul 4, 2019 at 8:32
#4
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 913
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Do you actually think he's going to get 10.5 from Toronto? Aho got 8.5 from an OS... you telling me hes worth 2 mil more than aho!?!? He has 25 more points than aho in identical games... close call
Jul 4, 2019 at 8:35
#5
Ryanma260
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 32
Likes: 10
Quoting: Tkachuckyyy
Do you actually think he's going to get 10.5 from Toronto? Aho got 8.5 from an OS... you telling me hes worth 2 mil more than aho!?!? He has 25 more points than aho in identical games... close call


Bro, we offered him 8 years 10 Million AAV and he said no as if we insulted him or something. It's not what Toronto is willing to pay, we clearly showed we value him, but Marner wants Matthews money and I know some talent needy teams like Anaheim who just need a young offensive star will offer him those kind of $$$. Marner wants 12, but I think the Leafs won't go over 11. And no, Marner is not 2 million over Aho, I think Marner's valuation is 9.5 - 10 mill especially since he's a WINGER. But some team will pay him, and when that time comes its up to Toronto to decide if we wanna keep him or get the picks.
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Jul 4, 2019 at 8:38
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Likes: 119
Quoting: ryanma260
Bro, we offered him 8 years 10 Million AAV and he said no as if we insulted him or something. It's not what Toronto is willing to pay, we clearly showed we value him, but Marner wants Matthews money and I know some talent needy teams like Anaheim who just need a young offensive star will offer him those kind of $$$. Marner wants 12, but I think the Leafs won't go over 11. And no, Marner is not 2 million over Aho, I think Marner's valuation is 9.5 - 10 mill especially since he's a WINGER. But some team will pay him, and when that time comes its up to Toronto to decide if we wanna keep him or get the picks.


Yeah dude, hometown on a cup contender. I honestly dont get it. Take the $$ and win!? Lol
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Jul 4, 2019 at 8:44
#7
Ryanma260
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 32
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Quoting: Tkachuckyyy
Yeah dude, hometown on a cup contender. I honestly dont get it. Take the $$ and win!? Lol


It's just frustrating because when we first found out about this, I was terrified we were gonna lost both Kapanen AND Johnsson because Marner wouldn't sign. The longer he took, I'd assumed the more time Kapanen and Johnsson had to go out and find their market value (Thank god for Dubas and that Marleau trade). If he'd signed first day of FA, we would've known exactly what our cap situation was. If he'd gone and actually SIGNED an offer sheet, and we could decide whether or not to take it, then we might've been in play for guys like Duchene or Panarin. Because he's taken so long, if we decide we dont want to match an offer sheet, we don't even have any UFA's left to pick from this year which means that we'd be wasting a year of our star players' prime because obviously our team is worse without Marner.
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