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This is what happens if the Isles offer sheet Marner for 125M

Created by: etao5
Initial Creation Date: Jul 5, 2019
Published: Jul 5, 2019 at 11:41 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
I honestly don't hate this. It would suck to lose Marner, but our D becomes a major strength and we have cap space plus 4 firsts to play with.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell7$12,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Gardiner, Jake6$6,000,000
Trades
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 1st round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYI
TOR
CBJ
TOR
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
NYI
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
NYI
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,164,699$0$82,500$2,335,301

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Bracco, Jeremy
$842,500
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
$775,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Gardiner, Jake
$6,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Agostino, Kenny
$737,500
LW
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Matthews, A.
Tavares, J.
Johnsson, A.
Rielly, M.
Nylander, W.
Power Play 2
Petan, N.
Spezza, J.
Bracco, J.
Gardiner, J.
Barrie, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Hyman, Z.
Kapanen, K.
Muzzin, J.
Rielly, M.
Penalty Kill 2
Moore, T.
Kerfoot, A.
Gardiner, J.
Dermott, T.

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Jul 5, 2019 at 11:43
#1
KL2
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 439
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Not in love with the gards contract but u have the same idea as me. We can use these first round picks to upgrade depending on how bad nyi are
Jul 5, 2019 at 11:43
#2
#LeafsFever
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 3,241
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While I agree they would not match that offersheet, there is no way they are bringing back Jake Gardiner.
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Jul 5, 2019 at 11:44
#3
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 27
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I've heard that Bracco is not NHL ready
Jul 5, 2019 at 11:47
#4
Maple Leafs Believer
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 399
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lol, isles can't even pull that off, after they sign beauvillier they have less than 8 MILLION. AND they still have to sign Pulock and Barzal with the biggest contract going out the door will be Matt Martin (2.5m). I hate fake reports
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Jul 5, 2019 at 11:51
#5
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 144
Likes: 12
Gord Stellick reported on NHL Network that there is a possible offer sheet coming in today or tomorrow on Marner at 12.5..... They have suggested that it may be Buffalo or Detroit.... very outside shot of it being Ottawa.
Jul 5, 2019 at 11:52
#6
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 46
Likes: 9
Quoting: Vortex
lol, isles can't even pull that off, after they sign beauvillier they have less than 8 MILLION. AND they still have to sign Pulock and Barzal with the biggest contract going out the door will be Matt Martin (2.5m). I hate fake reports


NYI could trade Leddy ($5.5M) and Beauvillier to MTL for prospects and picks.
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Jul 5, 2019 at 12:08
#7
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 178
Likes: 39
Quoting: Grabo86
I've heard that Bracco is not NHL ready


He was the best scorer in the AHL at age 21.. If he's not ready now he'll never be.
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Jul 5, 2019 at 12:09
#8
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,913
Likes: 413
Quoting: Jberney1
Gord Stellick reported on NHL Network that there is a possible offer sheet coming in today or tomorrow on Marner at 12.5..... They have suggested that it may be Buffalo or Detroit.... very outside shot of it being Ottawa.


Someone suggested, on tv, that it may be Detroit? And people believe this person? Yzerman gift wrapping lottery picks?? Awesome.

NJ or Colorado maybe.
Jul 5, 2019 at 12:12
#9
Islanders Fan
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 3,955
Likes: 1,010
Quoting: Vortex
lol, isles can't even pull that off, after they sign beauvillier they have less than 8 MILLION. AND they still have to sign Pulock and Barzal with the biggest contract going out the door will be Matt Martin (2.5m). I hate fake reports


Nick Leddy ($5.5M) easily traded. Buyout Komarov. Hickey at $2.5M should entice someone. $3M est. cap increase. Over $12M coming off the books. LTIR Ladd.

Not suggesting EVERYTHING above will happen but you're foolish if you don't think it's more than possible to fit everyone in.
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Jul 5, 2019 at 12:14
#10
Alex
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 316
Likes: 32
Quoting: Vortex
lol, isles can't even pull that off, after they sign beauvillier they have less than 8 MILLION. AND they still have to sign Pulock and Barzal with the biggest contract going out the door will be Matt Martin (2.5m). I hate fake reports


Trade Leddy and Hickey - Buyout Komarov - LTIR Ladd and even trade Boychuk if they just want more cap space. Greiss and Martin off the books next year, I don't think it's going to happen but the Isles have more than enough space to make it work.
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Jul 5, 2019 at 1:47
#11
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 9,617
Likes: 4,146
Quoting: Vortex
lol, isles can't even pull that off, after they sign beauvillier they have less than 8 MILLION. AND they still have to sign Pulock and Barzal with the biggest contract going out the door will be Matt Martin (2.5m). I hate fake reports


Greiss, $3.333.333. But they're still short (don't forget Toews).
Jul 5, 2019 at 1:48
#12
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 9,617
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Quoting: mannyshabs
NYI could trade Leddy ($5.5M) and Beauvillier to MTL for prospects and picks.


Yeah, and if frogs grew fur, we wouldn't have to chase the wily ermine.
Jul 5, 2019 at 1:49
#13
#LeafsFever
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 3,241
Likes: 810
Quoting: Grabo86
I've heard that Bracco is not NHL ready


Who did you hear this from? I don't think that's true.
Jul 5, 2019 at 1:52
#14
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 27
Likes: 10
Quoting: MG1986
Who did you hear this from? I don't think that's true.


jeff veillette has said that a few times. He's one of the best sources for Marlies knowledge.

I think the issue was that his underlying metrics were abysmal, he just happened to kill it on the PP or something like that. And the Leafs wouldn't be using him on the PP, and then his 5v5 stats were all crap

Not quoting Jeff though, I cant remember what he said for sure
Jul 5, 2019 at 1:58
#15
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 9,617
Likes: 4,146
Quoting: AlexG35
Trade Leddy and Hickey - Buyout Komarov - LTIR Ladd and even trade Boychuk if they just want more cap space. Greiss and Martin off the books next year, I don't think it's going to happen but the Isles have more than enough space to make it work.


Yes, but the point is, look at the dislocation it would cause, plus the loss of four first-round picks. Factor in the lack of star-quality production from many of your recent first-round picks (Dal Colle, Ho-Sang, Bellows) and you're talking about severely restricting the team's future. Is the price worth the product?
Jul 5, 2019 at 2:22
#16
#LeafsFever
Joined: May 2017
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Quoting: Grabo86
jeff veillette has said that a few times. He's one of the best sources for Marlies knowledge.

I think the issue was that his underlying metrics were abysmal, he just happened to kill it on the PP or something like that. And the Leafs wouldn't be using him on the PP, and then his 5v5 stats were all crap

Not quoting Jeff though, I cant remember what he said for sure


I can tell you from watching him a lot this past season Jeremy Bracco is for sure ready for a legitimate NHL shot.
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Jul 5, 2019 at 4:36
#17
Alex
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 316
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Yes, but the point is, look at the dislocation it would cause, plus the loss of four first-round picks. Factor in the lack of star-quality production from many of your recent first-round picks (Dal Colle, Ho-Sang, Bellows) and you're talking about severely restricting the team's future. Is the price worth the product?


I think you just answered you own question, Isles are not great at drafting in the late first round regardless. Marner is close to/is a top 20 player in the entire NHL. Id take that guaranteed production over lottery tickets - especially on a team that struggled to produce offense
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Jul 5, 2019 at 4:41
#18
First NY Then LA
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Quoting: AlexG35
I think you just answered you own question, Isles are not great at drafting in the late first round regardless. Marner is close to/is a top 20 player in the entire NHL. Id take that guaranteed production over lottery tickets - especially on a team that struggled to produce offense


Certainly a reasonable position.
 
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