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Future with Marner

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Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 5, 2019
Published: Jul. 5, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$12,500,000
5$8,500,000
2$2,000,000
5$5,500,000
5$4,250,000
3$1,500,000
2$950,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,250,000
1$825,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
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Marner, Mitchell$12,500,000
2020 1st round pick
2021 1st round pick
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
  2. 2020 4th round pick (MTL)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
2.
NYI
  1. 2020 4th round pick (FLA)
  2. 2021 7th round pick (FLA)
3.
NYI
  1. 2020 6th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Boychuk, Johnny
  2. Dal Colle, Michael [RFA Rights]
  3. Johnston, Ross
  4. Salo, Robin [Reserve List]
  5. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$79,245,000$0$820,000$4,255,000

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
$12,500,000$12,500,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$786,666$786,666 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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RD
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$764,167$764,167 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Jul. 5, 2019 at 3:36 p.m.
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Ur not getting him
Jul. 5, 2019 at 3:37 p.m.
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Take him... This lineup could very well give the leafs 4 top 10 picks...
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Jul. 5, 2019 at 3:38 p.m.
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Please do it Lou....Isle still don't have a solid goalie and to think Varlamov will be able to Replicate what Lehner did, then Isle fans are even dumber then they look. Nick Leddy aint worth those picks and Melnyk is the cheapest owner in the league so that deal wouldn’t happen. Leafs happily take 4 1st round lottery picks and solidify their future, have fun on the island Mitch
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Jul. 5, 2019 at 3:51 p.m.
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so when you OS Marner at 12.5;
Barzal is gonna take 8.5?
Pulock is taking just $5.5?
Boychuck is gonna waive for Ottawa?

so to adchieve this you need to trade Leddy/Boychuck (or Bailey) for pennies on the $ as everyone knows your in a cap crunch
Barzal and Pulock both need to take home town discounts
trade 4 1st rd picks
....... and have Marner sign the deal.........and the leafs not match

easy peasy
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Jul. 5, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: jluqueSF
so when you OS Marner at 12.5;
Barzal is gonna take 8.5?
Pulock is taking just $5.5?
Boychuck is gonna waive for Ottawa?

so to adchieve this you need to trade Leddy/Boychuck (or Bailey) for pennies on the $ as everyone knows your in a cap crunch
Barzal and Pulock both need to take home town discounts
trade 4 1st rd picks
....... and have Marner sign the deal.........and the leafs not match

easy peasy


To bad there ain’t many hometown discounts
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:04 p.m.
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Quoting: jluqueSF
so when you OS Marner at 12.5;
Barzal is gonna take 8.5?
Pulock is taking just $5.5?
Boychuck is gonna waive for Ottawa?

so to adchieve this you need to trade Leddy/Boychuck (or Bailey) for pennies on the $ as everyone knows your in a cap crunch
Barzal and Pulock both need to take home town discounts
trade 4 1st rd picks
....... and have Marner sign the deal.........and the leafs not match

easy peasy


People around these parts seem to forget that every big deal made sets both a tone and precedent for future and similar players. So, not only does this potentially hurt other teams around the league, but it hurts the Isles themselves. A 4 year offer sheet clocked in at $12.5 million is legitimate insanity. Then, on top of that, you are hoping that your own upcoming RFAs don't take note of what their own team just did and ask them for hometown discounts of a crazy proportion. That's like off-the-deep talk. Matthew Barzal is not getting $8.5 million AAV on a 5 year deal when his new linemate just received $12.5 million over 4. Mitch Marner did not win the Calder Trophy and Mitch Marner is not a top line center. Barzal will always hold that over and above Mitch Marner.
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Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:09 p.m.
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Quoting: MG1986
People around these parts seem to forget that every big deal made sets both a tone and precedent for future and similar players. So, not only does this potentially hurt other teams around the league, but it hurts the Isles themselves. A 4 year offer sheet clocked in at $12.5 million is legitimate insanity. Then, on top of that, you are hoping that your own upcoming RFAs don't take note of what their own team just did and ask them for hometown discounts of a crazy proportion. That's like off-the-deep talk. Matthew Barzal is not getting $8.5 million AAV on a 5 year deal when his new linemate just received $12.5 million over 4. Mitch Marner did not win the Calder Trophy and Mitch Marner is not a top line center. Barzal will always hold that over and above Mitch Marner.


Barzel more money than marner????
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:10 p.m.
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Barzel more money than marner????


Are you saying that sarcastically?
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:11 p.m.
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Are you saying that sarcastically?


Actual question like what’s your prediction on how barzel would improve and what do you think he’ll get
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:16 p.m.
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Actual question like what’s your prediction on how barzel would improve and what do you think he’ll get


A fairly reasonable comp for Matthew Barzal's future contract should be Braydon Point's new deal, which should be around $10.5 million AAV. Tampa Bay players seem to be willing to take team-friendly deals below market value, so it could be a little less. If we assume for a second Barzal refuses to negotiate until after next season and has a positively improved season, I think he gets more than $9 million and less than $10 million IF he is being offered a 5-year term or less. However, that comp basically gets thrown out the window if the Isles offer Mitch Marner $12.5 million. If a winger, who is basically Barzal's skill set that is not a center gets that sort of money, what do you think Barzal's people would then ask for....not a penny less than that. It screws everything up and I am not kidding about that.
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Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:31 p.m.
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A fairly reasonable comp for Matthew Barzal's future contract should be Braydon Point's new deal, which should be around $10.5 million AAV. Tampa Bay players seem to be willing to take team-friendly deals below market value, so it could be a little less. If we assume for a second Barzal refuses to negotiate until after next season and has a positively improved season, I think he gets more than $9 million and less than $10 million IF he is being offered a 5-year term or less. However, that comp basically gets thrown out the window if the Isles offer Mitch Marner $12.5 million. If a winger, who is basically Barzal's skill set that is not a center gets that sort of money, what do you think Barzal's people would then ask for....not a penny less than that. It screws everything up and I am not kidding about that.


Let’s hope he signs then!
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:37 p.m.
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Let’s hope he signs then!


It would almost make more sense to just trade for Marner for Barzal then. Leafs would then have legitimately the best center depth in the league and it would not even be close.
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:47 p.m.
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It would almost make more sense to just trade for Marner for Barzal then. Leafs would then have legitimately the best center depth in the league and it would not even be close.


Leafs need wingers now
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.
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Leafs need wingers now


I am assuming you mean top-6 wingers, since the Leafs have plenty of wingers ready and waiting at the AHL level. I don't think you need to worry though. The Isles are extremely thin at center without Barzal, so I doubt they would ever seriously consider that.
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Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:51 p.m.
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I am assuming you mean top-6 wingers, since the Leafs have plenty of wingers ready and waiting at the AHL level. I don't think you need to worry though. The Isles are extremely thin at center without Barzal, so I doubt they would ever seriously consider that.


All logic says you are correct but you have not factored in the Lou effect. Anything stupid is possible with him. A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G
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It would almost make more sense to just trade for Marner for Barzal then. Leafs would then have legitimately the best center depth in the league and it would not even be close.


Wish they would it’ll be real interesting
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:52 p.m.
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All logic says you are correct but you have not factored in the Lou effect. Anything stupid is possible with him. A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G


A trade that helps both teams is Marner, Ceci and Bracco for Poluck, Dobson, Wilde and a 1st. It would suddenly give the Leafs a defense worthy of a top contender, since Dobson is basically ready to step in and Wilde should be ready for the 2020-21 season. We do lose a winger, and a potential winger as well. But offense for defense isn't the worst thing.
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:54 p.m.
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A trade that helps both teams is Marner, Ceci and Bracco for Poluck, Dobson, Wilde and a 1st. It would suddenly give the Leafs a defense worthy of a top contender, since Dobson is basically ready to step in and Wilde should be ready for the 2020-21 season. We do lose a winger, and a potential winger as well. But offense for defense isn't the worst thing.


Dobber is nasty I remember when he scored 8 goals against my team like 10 years ago
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:55 p.m.
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Wish they would it’ll be real interesting


I can tell you for a fact that Barzal has heard a lot from Lou so far this summer. Lou wants to desperately re-sign him before he does anything else. Also, important to note that Barzal is repped by the same people (CAA) that rep Tavares, Duchene, etc.
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.
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Dobber is nasty I remember when he scored 8 goals against my team like 10 years ago


He needs a little bulking up but his IQ is there and his skating has gotten much better. A Dermott-Dobson Double-D third pairing would (a) protect them from strongest offensive compeition and (b) work them into more pressing situations like PP and PK slowly slowly.
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: MG1986
I can tell you for a fact that Barzal has heard a lot from Lou so far this summer. He wants to desperately re-sign him before Lou does anything else. Also, important to note that Barzal is repped by the same people (CAA) that rep Tavares, Duchene, etc.


Wish player movement was like the nba
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.
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He needs a little bulking up but his IQ is there and his skating has gotten much better. A Dermott-Dobson Double-D third pairing would (a) protect them from strongest offensive compeition and (b) work them into more pressing situations like PP and PK slowly slowly.

He’ll be a horse
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:59 p.m.
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He’ll be a horse


Let's start with a pony. He needs room to grow and improve with as little expectation as possible. Hard to do in Toronto nevermind just any old NHL team. I wish the Leafs were able to figure out a way to draft him back when he was originally drafted, but have no fear. There are ways we can get him now :P
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:59 p.m.
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Let's start with a pony. He needs room to grow and improve with as little expectation as possible. Hard to do in Toronto nevermind just any old NHL team. I wish the Leafs were able to figure out a way to draft him back when he was originally drafted, but have no fear. There are ways we can get him now :P


I’ll get him in nhl 20
Jul. 5, 2019 at 4:59 p.m.
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Wish player movement was like the nba


Haha do you know that technically, Alonzo Mourning was a Raptor. How quickly people forget :P Yes, they have a very weird cap system. Definitely a lot more movement there.
 
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