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Vegas Trade

Created by: wabishop
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2019
Published: Jul. 6, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$1,750,000
2$750,000
2$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Marchessault, Jonathan
  2. 2020 7th round pick (VGK)
VGK
2.
3.
PIT
  1. 2021 4th round pick (LAK)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the LAK
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$79,782,500$132,500$2,850,000$1,717,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$875,000$875,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA

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Jul. 6, 2019 at 3:44 p.m.
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Vegas declines.
Jul. 6, 2019 at 4:26 p.m.
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It would cost you Guentzel to get him....harsh reality is if you want to dump caps or trade for great players you need to give up assets. most penguins post I’ve seen recently are sending 5th round picks to dump awful contracts or trading bottom 6 /4th liner and an ahl goalie for top line players. This doesn’t happen normally in the nhl.
Jul. 6, 2019 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: capsin9
It would cost you Guentzel to get him....harsh reality is if you want to dump caps or trade for great players you need to give up assets. most penguins post I’ve seen recently are sending 5th round picks to dump awful contracts or trading bottom 6 /4th liner and an ahl goalie for top line players. This doesn’t happen normally in the nhl.


hahaha... funny how you think Marchessault has the value to get a return of Guentzel. Guentzel who is 24 coming off 40goals with 76pts total last year when Marchessault 28 tops out at 30- 3yrs ago. The only thing making their value even close is that fact that Marchessault makes 5m instead of 6, but then again, Guentzel doesn't have a no trade clause in his contract making it harder to trade. Vegas would have to add something to get Guentzel. Anyways, the trade in this chair is not fair in value and I don't see Vegas taking Guentzel in your highly critical opinion due to making their cap issue worse. I also don't see Ottawa wanting any parts of an overpaid d-man that will not be bought out, but the LA trade is more than fair/close in value. Well have fun tolling other pens fans for doing what almost every other teams fans are doing by over valuing their teams players. One love mate!
Jul. 6, 2019 at 6:57 p.m.
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hahaha... funny how you think Marchessault has the value to get a return of Guentzel. Guentzel who is 24 coming off 40goals with 76pts total last year when Marchessault 28 tops out at 30- 3yrs ago. The only thing making their value even close is that fact that Marchessault makes 5m instead of 6, but then again, Guentzel doesn't have a no trade clause in his contract making it harder to trade. Vegas would have to add something to get Guentzel. Anyways, the trade in this chair is not fair in value and I don't see Vegas taking Guentzel in your highly critical opinion due to making their cap issue worse. I also don't see Ottawa wanting any parts of an overpaid d-man that will not be bought out, but the LA trade is more than fair/close in value. Well have fun tolling other pens fans for doing what almost every other teams fans are doing by over valuing their teams players. One love mate!


Guentzel scores 40 goals playing on Crosby’s wing. Haha funny you don’t understand how that factors into value. But their values are very similar. The Crosby effect tends to make folks glorify their players. Ask buffalo how shearys doing without Sid haha. ? Guentzel should have a big year now that he’ll get some pp time but without Crosby Guentzel is just another 40 point guy with 25 goals. Nothing elite or special about him. Just like Chris Kunitz. Luckily for the penguins Crosby isn’t going anywhere and neither is Guentzel so we’ll never really find out how well he plays away from mom

Having an elite center makes you better. Having a generational talent makes you look elite. Crosby is 31 and scored 100 points. Thats pretty unheard of in today’s nhl. Guys like Sid and Ovi are top 5-8 nhl players of all time. Hah just so you understand the Crosby effect better
 
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