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Gardiner - Read explanation

Created by: rangersandislesfan
Initial Creation Date: Jul 6, 2019
Published: Jul 6, 2019 at 5:04 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
I don't think Gardiner SHOULD get 6X6.5 ... however, it seems like that's probably what he's going to get. It's not a good contract in my opinion but he'll probably get it anyway.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Armia, Joel3$2,800,000
Hudon, Charles1$800,000
Lehkonen, Artturi3$2,500,000
McCarron, Michael1$917,831
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Gardiner, Jake6$6,500,000
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$83,255,476$0$3,350,000-$1,755,476
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,800,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Gardiner, Jake
$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul 6, 2019 at 5:08
#1
Habs4life
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 344
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Not from Montreal he wont. I can't see anyone giving him that money or they would have.
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Jul 6, 2019 at 5:10
#2
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 3,637
Likes: 1,013
Anyway MTL dont need any defenseman anymore.
Jul 6, 2019 at 5:11
#3
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 254
Likes: 53
Kinkaid buried. Interesting.
Jul 6, 2019 at 5:24
#4
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 257
Likes: 76
Quoting: mr_z
Kinkaid buried. Interesting.


Done strictly so cap works with the Gardiner signing. Not because common sense is used. Montreal did not sign a back up goalie just to bury him. If by chance Montreal does still sign someone to a 6 mil contract, (not Gardiner) it won't be Kinkaid that will be moved somewhere for cap relief.
Jul 6, 2019 at 6:08
#5
Hugh Hefner of CF
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 3,734
Likes: 2,342
Kinkaid just signed and is buried before he even plays?
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Jul 6, 2019 at 6:35
#6
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 18,839
Likes: 2,634
According to reports, Jake Gardiner is seeking 7 years $50 million the Kevin Hayes deal. No way he's taking $39 million over 6 seasons.
Jul 6, 2019 at 7:09
#7
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 144
Likes: 12
Teams are shying away for several reasons
1) he has shown to many defensive lapses the past couple of years
2) he missed time last year and played through the playoffs with a wonky back
3) his demands are to high!!! He can’t get more than myers money!!
4) not many “playoff contending” teams have the cap space, it’s been spent already!!!! He wants to play for a playoff contending team.

I think Gardnier will end up in a 1 or 2 year “show me and I’ll pay you” contract... and I’m thinking 4 million is going to be the salary
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Jul 6, 2019 at 8:41
#8
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 254
Likes: 53
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
According to reports, Jake Gardiner is seeking 7 years $50 million the Kevin Hayes deal. No way he's taking $39 million over 6 seasons.


Quoting: Jberney1
Teams are shying away for several reasons
1) he has shown to many defensive lapses the past couple of years
2) he missed time last year and played through the playoffs with a wonky back
3) his demands are to high!!! He can’t get more than myers money!!
4) not many “playoff contending” teams have the cap space, it’s been spent already!!!! He wants to play for a playoff contending team.

I think Gardnier will end up in a 1 or 2 year “show me and I’ll pay you” contract... and I’m thinking 4 million is going to be the salary


I'd offer Gardiner a 2 - 3 yr 5.5 - 5.75 MAX. He's not worth 7per. He's finding that out the long hard way.
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Jul 6, 2019 at 10:29
#9
Thread Starter
rangersandislesfan
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 27,381
Likes: 3,104
Quoting: Jberney1
Teams are shying away for several reasons
1) he has shown to many defensive lapses the past couple of years
2) he missed time last year and played through the playoffs with a wonky back
3) his demands are to high!!! He can’t get more than myers money!!
4) not many “playoff contending” teams have the cap space, it’s been spent already!!!! He wants to play for a playoff contending team.

I think Gardnier will end up in a 1 or 2 year “show me and I’ll pay you” contract... and I’m thinking 4 million is going to be the salary


I completely agree those are reasons teams SHOULDN'T pay him 6.5X6 but it sounds like some teams are willing to pay him that. Maybe not though, idk.
Jul 6, 2019 at 10:31
#10
Thread Starter
rangersandislesfan
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 27,381
Likes: 3,104
Quoting: Trickster
Kinkaid just signed and is buried before he even plays?


Quoting: gmurrayt
Done strictly so cap works with the Gardiner signing. Not because common sense is used. Montreal did not sign a back up goalie just to bury him. If by chance Montreal does still sign someone to a 6 mil contract, (not Gardiner) it won't be Kinkaid that will be moved somewhere for cap relief.


Quoting: mr_z
Kinkaid buried. Interesting.


True haha ... didn't know who to put in goal. Kinkaid does save more cap space when in the minors but you're right. They just signed him for 1.75M so they probably won't send him down. May get claimed on waivers if they do anyway.
 
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