(BUF/CHI) - Nylander for Jokiharju - CapFriendly

Jul. 9, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.

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I mean you want to trade Joki, sure, no problem, we can't keep all those D anyways at the expansion, and he was not draft exempt.
But couldn't Stan find a better return??? gosh, I hope he knows something.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 4:50 p.m.

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I'm an outsider, but purely from an observer of both teams, this trade is a puzzle. Buffalo's weak side is the left, with Dahlin and riff-raff, so I would have thought that Gustafsson would have appealed to them more (plus he has experience). And I would have thought that Bowman would rather part with someone from the left side because Chicago's right is thinner. Strange.

Buffalo has been rumored to have Ristolainen on the trade block. And I think this just confirmed his exit (soon).
LHD: Dahlin, McCabe, Scandella, Pilut
RHD: Montour, Miller, Jokiharju, Bogosian

For Chicago, it doesn't matter what side they're weaker on: Nylander isn't ready for the NHL. I think he'll probably be able to settle into a 3rd line role in a year or two, but it's very possible that's his ceiling.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 4:55 p.m.

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Does this set the market for Puljujarvi?

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.

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Quoting: vmach

I mean you want to trade Joki, sure, no problem, we can't keep all those D anyways at the expansion, and he was not draft exempt.
But couldn't Stan find a better return??? gosh, I hope he knows something.

He probably has Dylan Strome in the back of his mind.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 4:56 p.m.

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Quoting: Bflo_Soldier

Buffalo has been rumored to have Ristolainen on the trade block. And I think this just confirmed his exit (soon).
LHD: Dahlin, McCabe, Scandella, Pilut
RHD: Montour, Miller, Jokiharju, Bogosian

For Chicago, it doesn't matter what side they're weaker on: Nylander isn't ready for the NHL. I think he'll probably be able to settle into a 3rd line role in a year or two, but it's very possible that's his ceiling.

I was talking about the defense in both instances. To me, Chicago has 4 guys who can play on the left side plus Beaudin (plus 2 spear carriers) and 2 guys who can play on the right plus Jokiharju plus Boqvist, so it makes sense to trade someone from the left side before someone from the right. Now if one of Chicago's RD's gets hurt (or Seabrook shows his age), the Black Hawks start looking like the Ducks or Maple Leafs on the right side.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 4:57 p.m.

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Edited Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:10 p.m.

Let's look at just how bad this trade really is...

Aleski Saarela...22 years old...61 goals and 46 assists in 147 games.........he's a toss in piece for the DeHaan trade in which you gave CAR (2) players that were going to leave voluntarily on their own anyway.

Alex Nylander...21 years old...30 goals and 56 assists in 165 games...…...he's the only reason you decide to trade away a 19 year old Top 4 dman… IS THIS BIZZARO WORLD?!?!?!

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 4:59 p.m.

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I wish Montreal could've gotten him. Bergevin and Bowman have a history with trades and Jokijarju would have been real solid on that 3rd pairing.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:05 p.m.

#33

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Did Chicago think they were getting William Nylander?

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:07 p.m.

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Can someone explain this to me please

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:08 p.m.

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What is going on with Buffalo's RHD, Jesus Christ. If they trade Ristolainen for anything valuable - especially a young forward, I will be so excited for them

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:09 p.m.

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Quoting: Bflo_Soldier

Buffalo has been rumored to have Ristolainen on the trade block. And I think this just confirmed his exit (soon).
LHD: Dahlin, McCabe, Scandella, Pilut
RHD: Montour, Miller, Jokiharju, Bogosian

For Chicago, it doesn't matter what side they're weaker on: Nylander isn't ready for the NHL. I think he'll probably be able to settle into a 3rd line role in a year or two, but it's very possible that's his ceiling.

If they play Scandella or Bogo with that defense I'll get so frustrated

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:10 p.m.

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Seguin to Dallas?

Watch it bud. Jk lol ?

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:17 p.m.

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Woow, that was unexpected.

Big win for Buffalo here

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:23 p.m.

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Seguin to Dallas?

I meant like this off-season. But that too was trash.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.

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a lot can happen when you know the GM is a drunk and you meet them at a bar.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 5:50 p.m.

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It's clear that all the other teams in the Atlantic and central divisions make out best in these trades.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 6:02 p.m.

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Why does Stan Bowman hate defensive prospects? Probably figures the Hawks will be someone else's problem soon.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 6:05 p.m.

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Clearly Jokiharju wasn't the new coach's favorite. It would have been sweet to get him to Florida though.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 6:11 p.m.

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Bad trade period. I like Alex Nylander, but he's a top 9 guy, 3rd line at most and not a very good 2nd liner (imo).
Jokiharju is a RHD and likely top 4 potential. You don't get those too often and it makes little sense to trade them for a 3rd line guy!

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 6:18 p.m.

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I dont get this. Very disappointing.

Great Profile Pic

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 6:23 p.m.

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I cried a bit when he left the Pens ,LOL & said when he left the Pens and Ill say it again. Botterill is a hockey wizard and BUF will be a good team because of him... yah the O'rielly trade and too much to Skinner but other than that, dude has been killing it on trades.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 6:46 p.m.

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I never liked Nylander, this gives them a pretty solid RHD/RD making it seem likely Risto gets moved... Buffalo looking like they will make playoffs this year or next... Chicago has a fair chance to get there as well so its interesting move/trade that surprised me... All these teams need a RHD but don't seem to do anything or make any moves... Guy was taken on a reach, I don't really like Buffalo's draft picks or forwards for most part so seems like best move for them.

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Jul. 9, 2019 at 6:53 p.m.

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