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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2019
Published: Jul. 9, 2019
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Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:01 p.m.
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You could save that ~1.8million in negative cap space by giving Marner a realistic contract. Both AAV and term are far off.
Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:20 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronLeafs
You could save that ~1.8million in negative cap space by giving Marner a realistic contract. Both AAV and term are far off.


I would actually love to see IRL what camp Marner does and just how ridiculous this **** show gets ...... OR ...... is it there a chance that they have decided to sit and talk about this come Aug 1 , once the Marner family vacation ends ...

Come whatever I just want to see the end of this, keep him or toss him.
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Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:22 p.m.
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Now we know why Marner's camp think he is worth that much..... cuz fans seem to think he is thebsecind coming of McJesus.

If you been following me; that Aho contract is gonna dictate the AVV.

If anyone wants to argue this, I am all ears and armed with stats and analytics to support it.
Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:25 p.m.
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Marner should get 3M after the Labanc contract squinting with tongue out

Realistically, though, Marner will probably want around 11. They'll likely agree on something around 10M or so.
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Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Now we know why Marner's camp think he is worth that much..... cuz fans seem to think he is thebsecind coming of McJesus.

If you been following me; that Aho contract is gonna dictate the AVV.

If anyone wants to argue this, I am all ears and armed with stats and analytics to support it.


Yeah, because fans dictate contract values all the sudden.
Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Marner should get 3M after the Labanc contract squinting with tongue out

Realistically, though, Marner will probably want around 11. They'll likely agree on something around 10M or so.


Agree 100% that he will get around $10M give or take $750Kish.
Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Agree 100% that he will get around $10M give or take $750Kish.


I feel like Rantannen should sign with the Avs, and then that should dictate where this goes .... in my view Marner is not better than him.
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Jul. 9, 2019 at 10:42 p.m.
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I feel like Rantannen should sign with the Avs, and then that should dictate where this goes .... in my view Marner is not better than him.


I think Rantannen is slight better but it's pretty darn close.
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Jul. 9, 2019 at 11:04 p.m.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Yeah, because fans dictate contract values all the sudden.


Well given the stats and analytics, where else are the pulling their demands from? All these ACGM posts with Marner at $11-12 million is ludicrous.

Rantannen, Marner and Tkachuk's new deals will be heavily influenced by Aho's. And it stuns me no one sees it.

Any Marner deal that is 8 figures should be 7-8 years, and defintely not that far north of $10 million.... understanding the concept of buying UFA years.

But realistically $8.5 over 5 is ground zero now for the three players I have mentioned. It's where it begins. Stats, analytics, style of play may mive the number slightly, but should not significantly.

Where the Leafs are at cap wise, $8.5 over 5 should end it.
Jul. 9, 2019 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Maj
I feel like Rantannen should sign with the Avs, and then that should dictate where this goes .... in my view Marner is not better than him.


There isn't much support to that from an analytics aspect. All the advance stats point to Rantanen being average or below average in a lot of ways but benefits massively by playing with McKinnon. Obviously you can't be an average player and score 90 points but I think without McKinnon he'd be well below a point a game player. Marner has scored at above a point a game since the midway of the season before and that year he played with Kadri and Marleau. Not saying there is a huge difference but Rantanen has some red flags, from an advanced stats point of view.
Jul. 9, 2019 at 11:29 p.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Well given the stats and analytics, where else are the pulling their demands from? All these ACGM posts with Marner at $11-12 million is ludicrous.

Rantannen, Marner and Tkachuk's new deals will be heavily influenced by Aho's. And it stuns me no one sees it.

Any Marner deal that is 8 figures should be 7-8 years, and defintely not that far north of $10 million.... understanding the concept of buying UFA years.

But realistically $8.5 over 5 is ground zero now for the three players I have mentioned. It's where it begins. Stats, analytics, style of play may mive the number slightly, but should not significantly.

Where the Leafs are at cap wise, $8.5 over 5 should end it.


Aho is slightly less valuable. You will see Rantannen and Marner will both get better contracts and they should. If you follow all these guys, it's pretty easy to see the raw talent and combined ability of Rantennen and Marner is a slight step above Aho. That's not to take away from Aho, he's amazing. If I was a defender on a breakaway, I'd want to face Aho any day of the week over the other two.

I haven't followed Tkachuk enough to comment.
Jul. 10, 2019 at 9:58 a.m.
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Quoting: CameronLeafs
You could save that ~1.8million in negative cap space by giving Marner a realistic contract. Both AAV and term are far off.


The rumor say that he want the same salary as Matthews, that's why I put that.
 
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