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Realistic Point Projections

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Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 12, 2019
Published: Jul. 12, 2019
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Eichel- 90 (30, 60)
Reinhart- 70 (25, 45)
Skinner- 60 (35, 25)
Mittelstadt- 40 (15, 25)
Olofsson- 50 (25, 25)
Johansson- 40 (15, 25)
ERod- 35 (10, 25)
Sheary- 35 (15, 20)
Vesey- 30 (15, 15)
Okposo- 30 (10, 20)

Dahlin- 60 (10, 50)
Risto- 50 (8, 42)
Montour- 40 (9, 31)
Miller- 30 (5, 25)
Pilut- 25 (5, 20)
McCabe- 20 (3, 17)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$68,991,667$0$3,700,000$12,508,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,275,000$2,275,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$3,387,500$3,387,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 12, 2019 at 1:48 a.m.
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I highly doubt that your d-core will score that many points
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 2:11 a.m.
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Quoting: arafay
I highly doubt that your d-core will score that many points


I wouldnt doubt that, especially if the forwards are putting up more. He didnt predict that many goals from the backend
Jul. 12, 2019 at 2:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I wouldnt doubt that, especially if the forwards are putting up more. He didnt predict that many goals from the backend


Pilut having 25 is a stretch. I think McCabe at 20 is too. Dahlia probably doesn’t reach 60 (55 instead but that’s being picky). Ristolainen’s role will decrease and so will his production so 40-45. Montour at 40 sounds good. Miller at 30 is also unlikely as he likely won’t be 2nd pairing and won’t be on pp1. I would say 20-25
Jul. 12, 2019 at 3:09 a.m.
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Pilut having 25 is a stretch. I think McCabe at 20 is too. Dahlia probably doesn’t reach 60 (55 instead but that’s being picky). Ristolainen’s role will decrease and so will his production so 40-45. Montour at 40 sounds good. Miller at 30 is also unlikely as he likely won’t be 2nd pairing and won’t be on pp1. I would say 20-25


McCabe has had 20 before in his career on a worse team and 14 and 12 in 2-50 game seasons, i think 20 is a conervative number but close. Pilut was on pace for 16 over 82 (despite his awful usage by Housley) and had 26 in 30 in the A, 25 is on the high end but not a stretch, as he again has more talent around him. Miller may be on the PP over Pilut so I dont think his numbers get tanked. I also think Risto is gone and that will lead to Jokiharju being the 3rd RHD and it'll be between Jokiharju and Pilut to be the 4th Dman on the PP (if they dont just use a forward, which they have). I cant predict Risto, because right now I have a hard time seeing him starting the year in Buffalo. Jokiharju wont have 40 though.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 5:45 a.m.
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Shouldn't Thompson have 20 and Z G get 15
Jul. 12, 2019 at 9:17 a.m.
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when you use the word realistic, you should probably try to be more realistic.
This isn't even a full set of line and you have already added 50+ goals over last year...

the sharks scored 252 last year and top to bottom their line up was worlds above what Buffalo currently has.
you should probably dial it back a good 30%...
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:25 a.m.
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I think 50 from Olofsson as a rookie is too much. I could see him getting maybe 40 (20,20).
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: arafay
I highly doubt that your d-core will score that many points


One of the best D cores in the league, all those defenders are capable of those numbers. Hard to gauge with Pilut since he's never played a full season. Risto can hit 50 points if he is played right by Krueger. Seeing as you just made a statement without any evidence to your claim I'll just say I doubt your argument is correct.

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Shouldn't Thompson have 20 and Z G get 15


I only did players that I believe would play 82 games on the roster. Thompson could have 30+ if he gets top 6 mins for 50 games. Zemgus can have 20 if the whole team gets better.

Quoting: Mike_Gartner
when you use the word realistic, you should probably try to be more realistic.
This isn't even a full set of line and you have already added 50+ goals over last year...

the sharks scored 252 last year and top to bottom their line up was worlds above what Buffalo currently has.
you should probably dial it back a good 30%...


Our team is extremely young, and young players tend to improve every season. Olofsson is a new edition to our roster and he is known for scoring goals, lead the SHL two years ago. He can put up 20+ goals in his rookie campaign. Johansson is also new and it's no stretch to say he can have 15 goals. Vesey is also new, 15 goals is what he can attain. Right there is the 50 goals you said were unrealistic. I honestly don't see why this team can't have 235 goals from the players I listed above. That would put them around the middle of the league if we go off the GF last season.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: arafay
I highly doubt that your d-core will score that many points

It all depends on the forwards. Nearly all of the pts are assists so it is very plausible that this prediction is good.
Quoting: Shibbal18
I wouldnt doubt that, especially if the forwards are putting up more. He didnt predict that many goals from the backend

Adding Vesey and Johansson with a new system, maybe the forwards could be a little more creative because the back end is much better than last year. Montour and Miller are very good at getting out of the defensive zone to start a play, I could see the defense easily reaching this level. The numbers may change per each individual but over all this is a good guess (in fact I think some forwards will do much better than this prediction),
Quoting: Sabresforlife
Shouldn't Thompson have 20 and Z G get 15

I think it is very plausible for them to get 25 goals together, 35 seems a bit high.
Quoting: Mike_Gartner
when you use the word realistic, you should probably try to be more realistic.
This isn't even a full set of line and you have already added 50+ goals over last year...

the sharks scored 252 last year and top to bottom their line up was worlds above what Buffalo currently has.
you should probably dial it back a good 30%...

I think it is a reach to think Olofsson will get 25. He did well last year but that was a very small sample and he played with Jack over 90% of the time.
Quoting: wondershrimp
I think 50 from Olofsson as a rookie is too much. I could see him getting maybe 40 (20,20).

Even 40 is a reach IMHO, see above comment
Quoting: Skyraider112
One of the best D cores in the league, all those defenders are capable of those numbers. Hard to gauge with Pilut since he's never played a full season. Risto can hit 50 points if he is played right by Krueger. Seeing as you just made a statement without any evidence to your claim I'll just say I doubt your argument is correct.



I only did players that I believe would play 82 games on the roster. Thompson could have 30+ if he gets top 6 mins for 50 games. Zemgus can have 20 if the whole team gets better.



Our team is extremely young, and young players tend to improve every season. Olofsson is a new edition to our roster and he is known for scoring goals, lead the SHL two years ago. He can put up 20+ goals in his rookie campaign. Johansson is also new and it's no stretch to say he can have 15 goals. Vesey is also new, 15 goals is what he can attain. Right there is the 50 goals you said were unrealistic. I honestly don't see why this team can't have 235 goals from the players I listed above. That would put them around the middle of the league if we go off the GF last season.


50 additional goal would be a lot, but as you indicated not out of the question.
I am going to do it by line instead of player:
Eichel- Reinhart- Skinner- 80-90
Vesey- Johansson- Okposo- 50 - 55
Sheary- Mittelstadt- ERod- 45-50
Girgensons - Larsson - Olofsson 25 - 30
Defense 30 goals
Maybe another 20 from replacements so 250 to 275
On the low end an improvement of 21 goals (Vesey and Johansson)
On the high end 46 goals, seems to be a reach
Maybe the lines are different, but that is my best guess.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:57 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
It all depends on the forwards. Nearly all of the pts are assists so it is very plausible that this prediction is good.

Adding Vesey and Johansson with a new system, maybe the forwards could be a little more creative because the back end is much better than last year. Montour and Miller are very good at getting out of the defensive zone to start a play, I could see the defense easily reaching this level. The numbers may change per each individual but over all this is a good guess (in fact I think some forwards will do much better than this prediction),

I think it is very plausible for them to get 25 goals together, 35 seems a bit high.

I think it is a reach to think Olofsson will get 25. He did well last year but that was a very small sample and he played with Jack over 90% of the time.

Even 40 is a reach IMHO, see above comment


50 additional goal would be a lot, but as you indicated not out of the question.
I am going to do it by line instead of player:
Eichel- Reinhart- Skinner- 80-90
Vesey- Johansson- Okposo- 50 - 55
Sheary- Mittelstadt- ERod- 45-50
Girgensons - Larsson - Olofsson 25 - 30
Defense 30 goals
Maybe another 20 from replacements so 250 to 275
On the low end an improvement of 21 goals (Vesey and Johansson)
On the high end 46 goals, seems to be a reach
Maybe the lines are different, but that is my best guess.


250-275 goals? We aren't Tampa bay. No way we score that much. I was predicting 235 goals and that's hopeful
Jul. 13, 2019 at 8:44 a.m.
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250-275 goals? We aren't Tampa bay. No way we score that much. I was predicting 235 goals and that's hopeful


Last year:
Eichel- Reinhart- Skinner- 90
Vesey- Johansson- Okposo- 44
Sheary- Mittelstadt- ERod- 37
Girgensons - Larsson - Thompson 18
Defense 35
Replacements 13
That is 237, IMO Olofsson will do better than Thompson, Mittelstadt will improve from 12 goals, Johansson will play more than 58 games, the replacements will be better this year (see UFA signing), I do not see 250 as an unreasonable projection. If Vesey-Johansson-Okposo get 2nd line minutes 55 is possible, and if Mittelstadt can bulk up that line could also reach 50 goals.
BTW Tampa had 325 goals last year, nearly a goal a game better than my low prediction.
250 (only 24 more than last year) should be an easy reach with better forward, defense, and young players maturing which would rank the Sabres as a middle of the pack scoring team, not Tampa Bay scoring machine.

Edit, your team gets 230 with out adding in replacements and you only have 10 forwards, You are jumping all over my prediction which is nearly the same as yours. Do you just like to disagree with people who are actually supporting your point of view.
In reality, my prediction is more pessimistic than yours, but somehow you failed to notice that. LOL
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