That's way too much to give away for turris. He's good but not that good.

LOL

Ya those 1sts and 2nds are not enough. I should get more lol

Another Habs fan over valuing.
Two first three seconds and a third round draft choice for Tar
Tatar and Petry.
Nashville says no way

NSH wants to make a push. Tatar and Petry at half the cap hit and I take Turris' anchor contract, NSH might consider giving up those potentially late picks.

I see some Montreal fans have hit the absinthe bar at the intercontinental today

this trade doesnt help mtl at all lmaoo. it creates huge holes

Go big or go home!

Please tell me, what do you predict Habs will do from now till the beginning of the season?

...Ekholm for Alzner straight up...

Possible, look at what they got for Subban

Cleared enough space to grab the guy the Habs needed in Duchene, and left them with around $5 mil in space to upgrade whatever they feel like upgrading. Better than trading for Shea Weber IMO.

Are the Preds in the "contender" conversation?

I don't see why not? One of the best D-core's in the league, an excellent goaltending tandem, and they're pretty deep up front. Given that the playoffs are a crap shoot, I'd say they're absolutely contenders.

they will do nothing. they will stay pat. at most, they might sign gardiner if he agrees to a 5 year deal. but then again, it is bergevin, so he'll surprise us. maybe a trade for a left shot D. but imo, the habs will do nothing. stay pat.

preds are contendors, but not for long. rinnie is 37 going 38. surros is a great backup, but not a starter quality goalie. maybe they sign holtby, but the preds window is dependent on rinnie. they have an elite Center depth with Johnssen, Duchene Turris (he needs to bounce back) and they have a great d-core with josi, ellis, ekholm and fabbro.

Hello again my friend. You have the best posts. When I first looked at this I had a good laugh, but then when I saw it was your post I needed to study it more.
Tatar, Tomas ($2,400,000 retained) was traded to VGN for essentially 2020 1st round pick (NSH), 2020 2nd round pick (NSH) & 2020 3rd round pick (MIN)
Petry, Jeff ($2,750,000 retained) is a very good Defenseman and could be valued at 2021 1st round pick (NSH), & 2021 2nd round pick (NSH) or even more
Taking Turris, Kyle contract 2020 2nd round pick (NJD)
Nashville says yes because their window is closing, Montreal says no they are close to the play offs and would rather not have the picks.

Exactly! Youre forgetting that they have Bonino and Granlund also at C . I disagree for the D core, cause Fabbro hasn't done anything yet . But Rinne is THE factor that makes them contenders. His contract is up in 2 yrs, the same time Tatar and Petry's is up.

If the Habs were to retain 50% of TT and JP, also taking on Turris contract, NSH would have about an extra mill of cap space 6.5 instead of 5.5. Next summer Granlund and Smith are off the books so that means an extra 10 mill of cap space. No problem paying Josi.

There's no FA out there as good as Tatar and no RD as good as Petry. If they're added to the roster, they'll be the top contender.

Which leads me to the final point, if MTL stays pat, they're not making the playoffs. Too many teams have gotten better in the conference. Why risk finishing short of a playoff spot again. Trade TT, JP, Gally and Byron for draft picks, let the young players play, and perhaps they land Lafrenier in the draft.

Hello to you too friend! I'm glad you actually took some time to analyze it. You were spot on on all the points you made. Long term it would favor MTL to do this trade. The talk in the town is that if we don't make the playoffs, Bergevin is fired. And if he doesn't make any moves to improve the team, we won't make the playoffs. I get the sense he won't trade any picks or prospects, he prefers to do nothing than to trade the future, and he'll accept his fate no matter what happens this season.

i highly doubt they miss the playoffs next season. if you have a healthy price and healthy weber, they're making the playoffs. i have no doubt about that. they have an insane amount of talent entering over the next 1-2 years. it'll be utterly stupid to trade petry and tatar, until the likes of poehling and brook/fluery/juulsen are ready to fill in. i have no interest in tanking to land lafreniere. pretty sure Price doesn't either. they've taken the retool route, now our patience is about to bare its fruit. stupid idea to trade petry tatar and gally right now.

A) Petry doesn't make their top 4
B) You're not wrong that there's no FA's that are currently available that are as good as Tatar, but he could be had at the deadline for a couple of 2nd's, or a late 1st. Trading a ton of picks to get rid of Turris, who's still a productive player when he's healthy, doesn't make sense.

Doubt MTL would let him go for less than what I posted, late 2020 1st and late 2021 2nd. NSH gets him for 2 playoff runs. I think it's a good deal. Also doubt Turris puts up numbers that will match his 6 mill playing 3rd line mins, and the term hurts even more than the cap hit.

As for Petry I totally disagree that he's automatically labeled as a 3rd pairing D, but at a 2.75 cap hit, again he's worth the late 2021 1st rnd pick and late 2020 2nd for 2 playoff runs.

Healthy Turris had 10 pts in 10 games at the world championships...

Petry suits up behind Ellis automatically, then they have Fabbro who they'll want to give minutes to, and they also have Santini to fill out their top 6. Would Petry fit? Sure. Is he worth what you're saying? Probably. Does it make sense for Nashville to do it? No.

Seriously? You're throwing world championship stats at me? He gets to play with star linemates and half the countries in the tournament can't assemble a good enough team to be able to beat the worst NHL team.

Like I said and @Price_is_the_goat said, their chances shrink once Rinne retires in 2 yrs. That's why IMO it does make sense to acquire Petry and Tatar. It won't happen though cause Bergevin wouldn't do it.

I didn't say that it doesn't make sense to acquire Petry. I said "Would Petry fit? Sure. Is he worth what you're saying? Probably. Does it make sense for Nashville to do it? No.". Very simple. You trade away a bunch of future ELC's in the form of draft picks, and either slot Petry into the top 4 and make Fabbro wait, or alternatively, you wait it out a bit, see how the market shakes out, and acquire some depth at the deadline.

The fact is, Nashville is one of the deepest teams in the NHL. If you're giving up 2 firsts, 3 seconds, a third, plus a player that you just gave up a barrel load for (because you think, in spite of his injuries last year, that he's now a bad player). Is cherry picking his world championship stats from last year bad? I don't think so. He was finally healthy. Even without the offensive production, he's still an excellent two way C.

Those picks alone get you two better players than Tatar and Petry. When you package guys like that, you lose value. David Poile laughs at you as soon as you start listing those picks off.

And really, when Rinne retires, do their chances really evaporate as bad as you're saying? Are there no other goalies in the NHL that could play in Nashville?