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Created by: Sabresforlife
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 12, 2019
Published: Jul. 12, 2019
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Draisaitl, Nurse, Puljujärvi for Reinhart, Ristolainen, Sheary, Samuelsson, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd- I purposed this trade on a sabre fan website and was killed by fans that thought it was a total give away to Edmonton while I thought it was somewhat fair but in Sabres favor - giving the sabres the 2c they really want and evening out RD vs LD, while giving Edmonton the ability to even out scoring and the pieces to make a deal for Nikita Gusev. My guess is 9 out of 10 edmonton fans would think this is an insanely one-sided deal in Buffalo's favor and that my fellow Sabre fans are nuts with their Sabres goggles
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22$81,500,000$76,501,999$0$1,750,000$4,998,001
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,835,000$2,835,000
RW, C
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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M-NTC
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
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NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:04 p.m.
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Absolutely zero chance
Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:06 p.m.
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Nah. Oilers pass.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:06 p.m.
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As a Leafs fan buffalo wins this.

And the reasons buffalo fans probably think it's too much is being in love wih your own players.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:08 p.m.
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canucks fan here:

buffalo wins this by a landslide. Draisaitl is one of the best in the league
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:12 p.m.
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Quoting: BCAPP
As a Leafs fan buffalo wins this.

And the reasons buffalo fans probably think it's too much is being in love wih your own players.


Exactly you can't discuss reasonable trades with fellow fans because it's like you are selling off their beloved children lol
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:14 p.m.
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As an Oilers fan this is how I see it. Oilers would want Reinhart, Risto and a first minimum for Draisaitl, 50 goal-100 point players are few and far between. That would leave Nurse and Puljujarvi for the rest, which isn’t even close IMO. I know other teams fans say that Draisaitl is nothing without McDavid but that simply isn’t true. When McDavid was out this past season, Draisaitl excelled and even scored a hat trick one game. I think that the Oilers are getting absolutely fleeced in this deal. Risto was the worst plus/minus player in the whole league and I don’t want anything to do with him on the Oilers.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:14 p.m.
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Sabres fan here. We win the trade.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:16 p.m.
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BUF fans will despise this trade since they're so high on Reinhart.

Imo BUF wins here, but not by too much.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Absolutely zero chance


...that BUF declines. Try to finish the sentence, mate.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabresforlife
Exactly you can't discuss reasonable trades with fellow fans because it's like you are selling off their beloved children lol


It's why I think any trade involving Liljegren is nuts.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:18 p.m.
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As a buffalo fan this is pretty fair trade but at the same time Reinhart is our only right winger so if we took this we would have none
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: TheChief
...that BUF declines. Try to finish the sentence, mate.


Both teams decline
Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:21 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Both teams decline


If BUF declines this Botterill should be fired
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
BUF fans will despise this trade since they're so high on Reinhart.

Imo BUF wins here, but not by too much.


They think Reinhart is better than Draisaitl and that Risto is better than Nurse lol - now I'm not in the Risto is garbage camp and I do think Reinhart is an improving player and that Draisaitl does get some stat inflation from playing with McJesus still Draisaitl is the best player in the trade
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:29 p.m.
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Oilers are giving the two best players in the trade in Drai and Nurse. Buffalo easily wins this.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabresforlife
They think Reinhart is better than Draisaitl and that Risto is better than Nurse lol - now I'm not in the Risto is garbage camp and I do think Reinhart is an improving player and that Draisaitl does get some stat inflation from playing with McJesus still Draisaitl is the best player in the trade


Indeed. Value-wise, I'd say the assets go like this: Draisaitl, Reinhart, Nurse, Risto, 1st, Puljujärvi, Samuelsson, 2nd and Sheary.

Issue in this move is that it turns quickly into yet another quantity for quality trades this site is filled with so often.

Drai will be a constant 80-90 point forward with or without McDavid. I see Reinhart as a 65-75 point guy, with potential to get even higher. Kinda like Huberdeau.

Risto isn't bad, he's a tad controversial d-man. He has clear strengths and also clear weaknesses. Nurse imo is more solid asset, which is why I value him more.
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:03 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Indeed. Value-wise, I'd say the assets go like this: Draisaitl, Reinhart, Nurse, Risto, 1st, Puljujärvi, Samuelsson, 2nd and Sheary.

Issue in this move is that it turns quickly into yet another quantity for quality trades this site is filled with so often.

Drai will be a constant 80-90 point forward with or without McDavid. I see Reinhart as a 65-75 point guy, with potential to get even higher. Kinda like Huberdeau.

Risto isn't bad, he's a tad controversial d-man. He has clear strengths and also clear weaknesses. Nurse imo is more solid asset, which is why I value him more.


I think that is good analysis - one thing I'll say is Samuelsson will be a rock solid 2nd pair LD but that's a couple years out
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 2:23 a.m.
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I’d have little interest solely due to the 1st. Buffalo has no luck when it comes to risky ventures and as such Eichel and Draisital would get injured in the first month thus dooming us.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.
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Wojme would say no to Matthews for Reinhart

Quoting: BCAPP
As a Leafs fan buffalo wins this.
Not even close
And the reasons buffalo fans probably think it's too much is being in love wih your own players.

Yup, Buffalo wins in a landslide.
Quoting: tylerstenson
canucks fan here:

buffalo wins this by a landslide. Draisaitl is one of the best in the league

One of the best, I think he was taken right AFTER Reinhart, just another brilliant move by DATM (Nylander instead of Sergachev the following year)
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Exactly you can't discuss reasonable trades with fellow fans because it's like you are selling off their beloved children lol

Any fool could see this trade favors Buffalo now and in the future
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Sabres fan here. We win the trade.

Big win for Buffalo
Quoting: BurgerBoss
BUF fans will despise this trade since they're so high on Reinhart.

Imo BUF wins here, but not by too much.

Big win

Just my opinion as a very biased Sabre fan.
Draisaitl > Reinhart + 2020 1st,
Nurse > Ristolainen + Sheary + 2020 2nd
Puljujärvi = Samuelsson,
If Buffalo made this trade it solves their RHD-LHD and their Center problems it does open up holes at RW. I would love to have a problem at RW with Jack and Leon as my centers
Skinner - Eichel - Olofsson
Johansson - Draisaitl - Thompson/Puljujärvi
Vesey - Mittelstadt - Rodrigues
Girgensons - Larsson - Ruotsalainen/Okposo
Dahlin - Montour
Nurse - Miller
McCabe/Pilut - Jokiharju/Bogosian
I am getting hard just thinking about this line up. Who cares if Samuelsson can be a 2nd pairing defenseman Puljujärvi could be a top 4 RW.

BTW what was the URL that you originally posted this trade, I want to read the comments.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 6:34 p.m.
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It was Sabres Mafia on facebook - the OP was joshua Perryman the guy who thinks I'm a crazy idiot is Gordon Spencer
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