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Bowmans Connection 20

Created by: cmcnamed
Initial Creation Date: Jul 13, 2019
Published: Jul 13 at 4:37 pm
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brassard, Derick1$3,250,000
Boyle, Brian1$3,250,000
Trades
CHI
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Tatar, Tomas ($1,800,000 retained)
  3. Fleury, Cale
  4. 2020 6th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Seabrook, Brent ($875,000 retained)
  2. Dach, Kirby
  3. Perlini, Brendan [RFA Rights]
  4. 2020 4th round pick (CHI)
  5. 2020 5th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Petry, Jeff ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. 2020 4th round pick (ANA)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (SJS)
MTL
  1. Saad, Brandon
  2. Anisimov, Artem
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (CHI)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (MTL)
MTL
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Brent Seabrook: $875,000 (12.73%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    CHI
    MTL
    ANA
    SJS
    CHI
    MTL
    2021
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    MTL
    2022
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$79,277,627$0$3,490,000$2,222,373
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    CHI
    Caggiula, Drake
    $1,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Toews, Jonathan
    $10,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    CHI
    Kane, Patrick
    $10,500,000
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    CHI
    DeBrincat, Alex
    $778,333
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Strome, Dylan
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Shaw, Andrew
    $3,900,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Tatar, Tomas
    $3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    $3,083,333
    C
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Nylander, Alexander
    $863,333
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    Boyle, Brian
    $3,250,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Brassard, Derick
    $3,250,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Kämpf, David
    $1,000,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    CHI
    Gustafsson, Erik
    $1,200,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    $3,000,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Crawford, Corey
    $6,000,000
    G
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Keith, Duncan
    $5,538,462
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    CHI
    Murphy, Connor
    $3,850,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Lehner, Robin
    $5,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    De Haan, Calvin
    $4,550,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Määttä, Olli
    $4,083,333
    LD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    CHI
    Dahlström, Carl
    $850,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    CHI
    Carpenter, Ryan
    $1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 3
    CHI
    Kurashev, Philipp
    $842,500
    C, LW
    RFA - 3

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    Jul 13 at 4:39
    #1
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    MTL decline both trades. Dach is the only value coming back, but we are losing a top3 Dman, Top 6 winger, 2nd line center, a B prospect in Fleury for a prospect.... and we're taking Seabrook ? Oh we got Saad, sorry.
    Jul 13 at 4:41
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    Trash
    Jul 13 at 5:44
    #3
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    Sauceboss
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    Quoting: hawksfan881965
    Trash


    Elaborate.
    Jul 13 at 8:04
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    Quoting: cmcnamed
    Elaborate.


    Not worth the effort lmao. Absolute garbage for both sides.
    Jul 13 at 9:01
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    Joined: May 2019
    Posts: 337
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    Quoting: cmcnamed
    Elaborate.


    Hawks got lucky in picking 3rd overall. They were willing to move back to 10 if someone took Seabrook. No dice. Sure they get 2 players in your deal. Tatar had a career year last year. But he had a really down year the year prior. Danault should be a 3c. Dach may be that right now. Why would the Hawks want to trade the best prospect they have just to shed dump a contract when there could very well be a compliance buyout coming. Why would Montreal dump 2 useful players for 1 prospect and 1 cap dump and a player that everyone is unsure about in Perlini.
    Jul 14 at 12:13
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    Joined: Jun 2019
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    Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
    Hawks got lucky in picking 3rd overall. They were willing to move back to 10 if someone took Seabrook. No dice. Sure they get 2 players in your deal. Tatar had a career year last year. But he had a really down year the year prior. Danault should be a 3c. Dach may be that right now. Why would the Hawks want to trade the best prospect they have just to shed dump a contract when there could very well be a compliance buyout coming. Why would Montreal dump 2 useful players for 1 prospect and 1 cap dump and a player that everyone is unsure about in Perlini.


    Considering how much hawk fans (including myself) hate dach and that he was picked over turcotte or byram, we’d love it if he was the difference in getting seabrook outta Chicago.
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    Jul 14 at 12:50
    #7
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    Sauceboss
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    Quoting: HatterTParty
    Considering how much hawk fans (including myself) hate dach and that he was picked over turcotte or byram, we’d love it if he was the difference in getting seabrook outta Chicago.


    I agree - incentive for Chicago to let go of their recent high pick while still re-cooping most short term value from Montreal.
    Jul 14 at 12:52
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    Sauceboss
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    Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
    Hawks got lucky in picking 3rd overall. They were willing to move back to 10 if someone took Seabrook. No dice. Sure they get 2 players in your deal. Tatar had a career year last year. But he had a really down year the year prior. Danault should be a 3c. Dach may be that right now. Why would the Hawks want to trade the best prospect they have just to shed dump a contract when there could very well be a compliance buyout coming. Why would Montreal dump 2 useful players for 1 prospect and 1 cap dump and a player that everyone is unsure about in Perlini.


    In this scenario Montreal gets Caufield and Dach from 2019 while letting go of long-term secondary pieces.
    Ultimate sell-high move which will result in a weaker team short term.
    Jul 14 at 4:47
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    Quoting: HatterTParty
    Considering how much hawk fans (including myself) hate dach and that he was picked over turcotte or byram, we’d love it if he was the difference in getting seabrook outta Chicago.


    How many times have you seen any of the three play?
    Jul 14 at 5:37
    #10
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    Sauceboss
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    Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
    How many times have you seen any of the three play?


    To be fair, both were consensus higher picks than Dach prior to the draft.
    Jul 14 at 9:15
    #11
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    Quoting: cmcnamed
    To be fair, both were consensus higher picks than Dach prior to the draft.


    So what? Scheifle was a bottom third first round mock. Chevyldayoff almost got laughed out of the building when he made the pick. Everyone thought 3-8 was about the same this year. Some even thought Dach was the better pick. So it wasn't unanimous. I didn't like the pick either, but I'm not going to be upset over players I've never seen. Funny enough, the knock on both players after being drafted was skating.
    Jul 14 at 10:22
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    Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
    How many times have you seen any of the three play?


    Quoting: cmcnamed
    To be fair, both were consensus higher picks than Dach prior to the draft.


    I’ve seen turcotte a few times and he is ridiculously competitive and his physique is very similar to Crosby (5’11” 195 lbs turcotte, 5’11” 200 lbs. Crosby). He has amazing scoring instincts, great speed, and great two way play, albeit for his age. These traits will continue to grow as well.

    Having said that, I still wanted byram more because of his number one d potential. I haven’t watched him live but am blown away by his instincts both offensive and defensive.

    Then there’s dach........ what can I say? Good hands? Good playmaking I guess? Doesn’t know how to use his size effectively? Can’t skate like marquee nhlers these days? Dach is a player stuck in 2007. If he ends up like mark scheifele, I’m okay with him, but if he’s like Ryan Johansen or Ryan getzlaf, no thanks.

    In conclusion, I literally don’t expect anything from dach because I don’t hold much regard for him. Turcotte will take time, but I’d be fine with that because it’s all about following the process. Byram may need a year in juniors too, but again, no need to rush. Dach is gonna be rushed in my mind because Bowman’s job depends on him. If he gets 50-60 points in a year, I’ll be amazed, cuz I don’t expect from him. I just hope we finish dead last so bowman can be fired and we have a chance at a true number 1 center lafrenerre. (I know I spelled that wrong)
    Jul 15 at 12:27
    #13
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    Devils advocate: since having maatta, de Haan, Murphy, seabs, and Keith means we trade jokiharju, shouldn’t we trade Dach since we got Toews, strome, and Anisimov? Especially since clearly Stan hates promising youth. Huh? Huh? Thoughts???? I know I’m on to something!!!!!!!
     
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