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Bridge Deal for Marner seems logical

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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:18 p.m.
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Still to much. Maybe 7.5 million max
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:20 p.m.
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Still to much. Maybe 7.5 million max


Thats what I thought, went an 500k up to see our cap situation
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:21 p.m.
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Thats what I thought, went an 500k up to see our cap situation


That could trade ceci and use that space to sign Gardiner though
Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Jack_
Still to much. Maybe 7.5 million max


That would be my number as well, although it's probably for 2 years.
Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Jack_
Still to much. Maybe 7.5 million max


I agree... but I think you will see a deal between your number and the OP. I am really starting to think that marner will end up with a 3yr bridge. If Dubas manages to get him up to 6 it would be a massive victory.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:22 p.m.
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That could trade ceci and use that space to sign Gardiner though


Wouldnt mind that at all.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:23 p.m.
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Even with a bridge deal they're going to have to be creative every season to keep guys
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:24 p.m.
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That would be my number as well, although it's probably for 2 years.


Man but in 2 years he's gonna be asking for more than he wants now
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:25 p.m.
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Even with a bridge deal they're going to have to be creative every season to keep guys


New US TV deal + Seattle expansion draft should help raise the cap significantly
Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:26 p.m.
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Quoting: TheNewAge
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New US TV deal + Seattle expansion draft should help raise the cap significantly


But it's the nhl. They always lie about their numbers to keep the cap as low as possible
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:26 p.m.
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My curent guesses are :

3 x 7,7M ( after 2 x 6M and 3 x 4,67M you know who )
4 x ------- ( avoiding the term )
5 x 9,5M ( 1M above Aho, just cause Dubarelli can )

But hey, i was the guy who was giving Matthews 8 x 10,5M ( Eichel ) last summer....what do i know.....
Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:27 p.m.
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Man but in 2 years he's gonna be asking for more than he wants now


I'm not saying I'd give him a bridge deal, just what I think he would get if he signed one.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
My curent guesses are :

3 x 7,7M ( after 2 x 6M and 3 x 4,67M you know who )
4 x ------- ( avoiding the term )
5 x 9,5M ( 1M above Aho, just cause Dubarelli can )

But hey, i was the guy who was giving Matthews 8 x 10,5M ( Eichel ) last summer....what do i know.....


Have a feeling we’re gonna have to go to 8 for a bridge deal. I recall Friedge saying 2 years x 8M? We’ll find out eventually.
Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:30 p.m.
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Still to much. Maybe 7.5 million max


That's still a massive overpayment on a rental. He is worth around 8-9 Million for 8 Years. He might get about 5-6 Million for 3.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:30 p.m.
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I'm not saying I'd give him a bridge deal, just what I think he would get if he signed one.


If I'm Dubas I do whatever I can to lock him up as long as I can. If that means 11x5 then that's your cup window
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.
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I'm not saying I'd give him a bridge deal, just what I think he would get if he signed one.


It should be 5-6 Million for 2-3 Seasons, but with how overhyped he is he feels he is worth around 7-8 Million for 2-3 Seasons. Which is unreasonable cost on price of years.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.
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Quoting: TheNewAge
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New US TV deal + Seattle expansion draft should help raise the cap significantly


This is the NHL not the NBA. The new US t.v. deal won't come close to that but it will still be an increase on the current deal. I doubt the cap rises like many think.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.
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That's still a massive overpayment on a rental. He is worth around 8-9 Million for 8 Years. He might get about 5-6 Million for 3.


Marners camp is probably accounting for inflation this current deal. In 5 years he wont be worth 8-9M anymore.
Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:32 p.m.
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This is the NHL not the NBA. The new US t.v. deal won't come close to that but it will still be an increase on the current deal. I doubt the cap rises like many think.


Even if it rises bit, it will help our cap situation.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.
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It should be 5-6 Million for 2-3 Seasons, but with how overhyped he is he feels he is worth around 7-8 Million for 2-3 Seasons. Which is unreasonable cost on price of years.


He definitely has an inflated self worth. Just wish this situation could be resolved already? lol
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.
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Marners camp is probably accounting for inflation this current deal. In 5 years he wont be worth 8-9M anymore.


I wouldn't even say that. His production is inflated due to the fact John Tavares was helping him out, so either way. I still wouldn't even pay that much for him. His Contract would be worth more than 11% of the teams Cap Space. He might be worth around 7-9% of the Salary Cap 9% of the Salary cap would mean 7,290,000 would be his contract. Which is more than Fair, but to say he is worth more than 10% of the Salary Cap is ridiculous.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: TheNewAge
Even if it rises bit, it will help our cap situation.


For sure, just saying I don't think it will be as much as most think.
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:37 p.m.
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I wouldn't even say that. His production is inflated due to the fact John Tavares was helping him out, so either way. I still wouldn't even pay that much for him. His Contract would be worth more than 11% of the teams Cap Space. He might be worth around 7-9% of the Salary Cap 9% of the Salary cap would mean 7,290,000 would be his contract. Which is more than Fair, but to say he is worth more than 10% of the Salary Cap is ridiculous.


Thanks! You just saved me a bunch of typing lol
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Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:40 p.m.
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If I'm Dubas I do whatever I can to lock him up as long as I can. If that means 11x5 then that's your cup window


I agree on the term but no way I would pay him that much. We would not be able to build a defence (much like now) if we payed him that.
Jul. 13, 2019 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
That's still a massive overpayment on a rental. He is worth around 8-9 Million for 8 Years. He might get about 5-6 Million for 3.


We need you to talk some sense into Marner's camp lol
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