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Every team's most overrated player

Aug 2, 2019 at 6:05
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
Buddy, I got news for you. Brassard no longer plays for the Pens.


I was looking at stats from last year not now...
Aug 2, 2019 at 6:05
#77
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Because i don't think he's any worse than most people think he is.


As a Penguins fan, I agree. He's good at driving possession, forechecking and stick handling, like Simon but he didn't score enough to earn the people's amusement.
Aug 2, 2019 at 6:07
#78
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
I was looking at stats from last year not now...


I see. Well, personally I don't think Brassard was overrated in his prime. Of course he never lived up to the expectation of a top 10 draft pick but was still a solid player.

@rangersandislesfan What was your opinion on Derick Brassard? Didn't he play on the top line with Zuccarello and Nash?
Aug 2, 2019 at 6:10
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This isn't supposed to be mean or anything but I wrote Dubinsky as over rated for last year, how long till he retires?
Aug 2, 2019 at 6:16
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
I see. Well, personally I don't think Brassard was overrated in his prime. Of course he never lived up to the expectation of a top 10 draft pick but was still a solid player.

@rangersandislesfan What was your opinion on Derick Brassard? Didn't he play on the top line with Zuccarello and Nash?


I can't remember who he played with lol ... i think that sounds right though.
Aug 2, 2019 at 6:18
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I can't remember who he played with lol ... i think that sounds right though.


He was a 20 goal scorer, which is not great for a first-line centre to be honest. But that was in the tall dead tree defensive hockey era and the Rangers were a dominant team.
Aug 7, 2019 at 8:40
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Anaheim: Jakob Silverberg
Arizona: Alex Goligoski
Boston: Conner Clifton
Buffalo: Rasmus Ristolainen
Calgary: Mark Giordano
Carolina: Petr Mrazek
Chicago: Johnathan Towes
Colorado: Erik Johnson
Columbus: Nick Foligno
Dallas: Roope Hintz
Detroit: Jimmy Howard
Edmonton: Adam Larsson
Florida: Vincent Trochek
Los Angeles: Dustin Brown
Minnesota: Jason Zucker
Montreal: Johnathan Drouin
Nashville: Ryan Johansen
New Jersey: PK Subban
NY Islanders: Josh Bailey
NY Rangers: Chris Kreider
Ottawa: Craig Anderson
Philadelphia: Kevin Hayes
Pittsburgh: Justin Schultz
San Jose: Martian Jones
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Yanni Gourde
Toronto: Kasperi Kappenen
Vancouver: Bo Horvat
Vegas: Cody Eakin
Washington: Jakub Vrana
Winnipeg: Patrik Laine
Aug 7, 2019 at 9:10
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Quoting: eklund29
Anaheim: Jakob Silverberg
Arizona: Alex Goligoski
Boston: Conner Clifton
Buffalo: Rasmus Ristolainen
Calgary: Mark Giordano
Carolina: Petr Mrazek
Chicago: Johnathan Towes
Colorado: Erik Johnson
Columbus: Nick Foligno
Dallas: Roope Hintz
Detroit: Jimmy Howard
Edmonton: Adam Larsson
Florida: Vincent Trochek
Los Angeles: Dustin Brown
Minnesota: Jason Zucker
Montreal: Johnathan Drouin
Nashville: Ryan Johansen
New Jersey: PK Subban
NY Islanders: Josh Bailey
NY Rangers: Chris Kreider
Ottawa: Craig Anderson
Philadelphia: Kevin Hayes
Pittsburgh: Justin Schultz
San Jose: Martian Jones
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Yanni Gourde
Toronto: Kasperi Kappenen
Vancouver: Bo Horvat
Vegas: Cody Eakin
Washington: Jakub Vrana
Winnipeg: Patrik Laine


What level would you say Laine, Risto, and Subban are? Basically everyone says they're overrated.
Aug 7, 2019 at 9:31
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
What level would you say Laine, Risto, and Subban are? Basically everyone says they're overrated.


Laine just needs to be more consistent, but he lacks in skating, defensive awareness and passing. Risto is bad at defense, but has good offensive awareness and has a good first pass. Subban is mediocre defensively, bad offensively and slow, He's a great player for the community and marketing but his play dropped off significantly after being traded from Montreal
Aug 7, 2019 at 9:39
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Quoting: eklund29

Washington: Jakub Vrana


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Aug 7, 2019 at 9:49
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Quoting: eklund29
Laine just needs to be more consistent, but he lacks in skating, defensive awareness and passing. Risto is bad at defense, but has good offensive awareness and has a good first pass. Subban is mediocre defensively, bad offensively and slow, He's a great player for the community and marketing but his play dropped off significantly after being traded from Montreal


I'd say Subban is underrated. Most people see him as a 2nd pairing guy, am i wrong?
Aug 7, 2019 at 9:51
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Quoting: krakowitz
Go to hell


Quoting: krakowitz
NY Islanders: Josh Bailey
NY Rangers: Tony DeAngelo
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Aug 8, 2019 at 11:03
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Quoting: eklund29
Anaheim: Jakob Silverberg
Arizona: Alex Goligoski
Boston: Conner Clifton
Buffalo: Rasmus Ristolainen
Calgary: Mark Giordano
Carolina: Petr Mrazek
Chicago: Johnathan Towes
Colorado: Erik Johnson
Columbus: Nick Foligno
Dallas: Roope Hintz
Detroit: Jimmy Howard
Edmonton: Adam Larsson
Florida: Vincent Trochek
Los Angeles: Dustin Brown
Minnesota: Jason Zucker
Montreal: Johnathan Drouin
Nashville: Ryan Johansen
New Jersey: PK Subban
NY Islanders: Josh Bailey
NY Rangers: Chris Kreider
Ottawa: Craig Anderson
Philadelphia: Kevin Hayes
Pittsburgh: Justin Schultz
San Jose: Martian Jones
St. Louis: Jordan Binnington
Tampa Bay: Yanni Gourde
Toronto: Kasperi Kappenen
Vancouver: Bo Horvat
Vegas: Cody Eakin
Washington: Jakub Vrana
Winnipeg: Patrik Laine


would agree with almost everyone on this list exccept for giordano and ryan johansen
Aug 8, 2019 at 11:12
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Quoting: hanson493
would agree with almost everyone on this list exccept for giordano and ryan johansen


Isn't the whole point that these players are overrated? If you think Risto is a 2nd pairing d-man then he's not overrated lol.
Aug 8, 2019 at 11:20
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Isn't the whole point that these players are overrated? If you think Risto is a 2nd pairing d-man then he's not overrated lol.


RAIF, for the last time just because a handful of people agree on the overrated/underrated status of a player doesn't mean that they are not overrated/underrated. There are millions more hockey fans out there than the 20-30 that comment in the CapFriendly forums.
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Aug 8, 2019 at 11:32
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Isn't the whole point that these players are overrated? If you think Risto is a 2nd pairing d-man then he's not overrated lol.


Im not the one overrating him. I think he is being overrated.
Aug 8, 2019 at 11:34
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
RAIF, for the last time just because a handful of people agree on the overrated/underrated status of a player doesn't mean that they are not overrated/underrated. There are millions more hockey fans out there than the 20-30 that comment in the CapFriendly forums.


I know, there are millions more hockey fans out there who think Risto is a 2nd pairing guy lol.
Aug 8, 2019 at 11:35
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Quoting: hanson493
Im not the one overrating him. I think he is being overrated.

Unless you think he's like a 3rd pairing d-man or something then you can't really call him overrated.
Aug 8, 2019 at 11:45
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Unless you think he's like a 3rd pairing d-man or something then you can't really call him overrated.


how? if the sabres are rating him as a 1st pairing dman, he is overrated. If MULTIPLE people are saying Risto is a 1st pairing Dman, I am not the one overrating him. I am saying he is being overrated.
Aug 8, 2019 at 5:57
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I'd say Subban is underrated. Most people see him as a 2nd pairing guy, am i wrong?


You think a 2nd pairing Man who makes 9million dollars is underrated?
Aug 8, 2019 at 5:59
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Quoting: krakowitz
Go to hell


lmao Burk is gone now so I can't say him
Aug 8, 2019 at 10:38
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lmao Burk is gone now so I can't say him


Coulda gone with Orlov. Didn't have to break my heart like that
Aug 8, 2019 at 11:50
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Quoting: hanson493
how? if the sabres are rating him as a 1st pairing dman, he is overrated. If MULTIPLE people are saying Risto is a 1st pairing Dman, I am not the one overrating him. I am saying he is being overrated.


If the team thinks he's a top pairing guy, then that doesn't mean enough. That's a few of his coaches and that's it. Way more people say he's 2nd pair.

Quoting: eklund29
You think a 2nd pairing Man who makes 9million dollars is underrated?


Exactly what i'm saying. It's not all about his contract. I'm not going to say Tyler Myers is overrated because he signed for 6M ... overrated by the team, but most fans were unhappy about the contract and the overall opinion is that it wasn't a good contract. I don't see Subban as a 2nd pairing d-man while lots of people do. That's why i think he's underrated.
Aug 9, 2019 at 1:38
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
If the team thinks he's a top pairing guy, then that doesn't mean enough. That's a few of his coaches and that's it. Way more people say he's 2nd pair.



Exactly what i'm saying. It's not all about his contract. I'm not going to say Tyler Myers is overrated because he signed for 6M ... overrated by the team, but most fans were unhappy about the contract and the overall opinion is that it wasn't a good contract. I don't see Subban as a 2nd pairing d-man while lots of people do. That's why i think he's underrated.


If you watched him in Nashville you'd see how slow he is to get back or try to negate a rush. Once he left Montreal we saw a huge drop off in his overall play, making him overrated now.
Aug 9, 2019 at 1:46
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Quoting: eklund29
If you watched him in Nashville you'd see how slow he is to get back or try to negate a rush. Once he left Montreal we saw a huge drop off in his overall play, making him overrated now.


But most people aren't supposed to agree on who is overrated or underrated.
 
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