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Every team's most overrated player

Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:28 a.m.
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Anaheim: Fowler
Arizona: Demers
Boston: Krug
Buffalo: Ristolainen
Calgary: Brodie
Carolina: Stall
Chicago: Saad
Colorado: Johnson
Columbus: Murray
Dallas: Perry
Detroit: Dekeyser
Edmonton: Larsson
Florida: Stralman
Los Angeles: Brown
Minnesota: Zucker
Montreal: Drouin
Nashville: Johansen
New Jersey: Subban
New York Islanders: Eberle
New York Rangers: Shattenkirk
Ottawa: Pageau
Flyers: Gostisbehere
Pittsburgh: Rust
Sharks: Vlasic
Blues: Steen
Tampa Bay: Gourde
Toronto: Kapanen
Vancouver: Tavev
Vegas: Stastny
Washington: Orlov
Winnipeg: Laine
Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:29 a.m.
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ANA: Fowler
ARI: Dvorak
BOS: Coyle
BUF: Risto
CGY: Hamonic
CAR: J. Staal
CHI: Seabrook
COL: Donskoi
CBJ: Werenski
DAL: Ja. Benn
DET: Howard
EDM: Russell
FLA: Stralman
LAK: Quick
MIN: V. Rask
MTL: Drouin
NSH: Johansen
NJD: Subban
NYI: Leddy
NYR: Skjei
OTT: Hainsey
PHI: K. Hayes
PIT: B. Tanev
SJS: E. Kane
STL: Bozak
TBL: T. Johnson
TOR: W. Nylander
VAN: Beagle
VGK: Reaves
WASH: Orlov
WPG: Little
Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:29 a.m.
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Anaheim: Cam Fowler
Arizona: Alex Goligoski
Boston: Charlie Coyle
Buffalo: Rasmus Ristolainen
Calgary: TJ Brodie
Carolina: Ryan Dzingel
Chicago: Olli Maatta
Colorado: Erik Johnson
Columbus: Zach Werenski
Dallas: Mattias Janmark
Detroit: Danny DeKeyser
Edmonton: Zack Kassian
Florida: Keith Yandle
Los Angeles: Jeff Carter
Minnesota: Kevin Fiala
Montreal: Jonathan Drouin
Nashville: Ryan Johansen
New Jersey: Sami Vatanen
NY Islanders: Johnny Boychuk
NY Rangers: Jesper Fast
Ottawa: Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Philadelphia: Robert Hagg
Pittsburgh: Nick Bjugstad
San Jose: Marc-Edouard Vlasic
St. Louis: Joel Edmundson
Tampa Bay: Tyler Johnson
Toronto: Tyson Barrie
Vancouver: Troy Stecher
Vegas: Max Pacioretty
Washington: Dmitri Orlov
Winnipeg: Patrik Laine
Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:29 a.m.
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Anaheim: Henrique
Arizona: Stepan
Boston: McCavoy
Buffalo: Ristolainen
Calgary: Hamonic
Carolina: Staal
Chicago: Anisimov
Colorado: E Johnson
Columbus: Savard
Dallas: Benn
Detroit: Dekeyser
Edmonton: Klefbom
Florida: Matheson
Los Angelas: Toffoli
Minnesota: Brodin
Montreal: Mete
Nashville: Johansen
New Jersey: Severson
Islanders: Leddy
Rangers: Skej
Ottawa: B Tkachuk
Pittsburgh: Murray
Flyers: Gostisbehere
Sharks: Burns
Blues: Tarasenko
Lightning: Palat
Maple Leafs: Kapenen
Vancouver: Boeser
Vegas: W Karlsson
Washington: Holtby
Winnipeg: Laine
Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:35 a.m.
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I'm saying everyone thinks he's overrated. If everyone thinks he's overrated, then not all those people are right. Maybe one or two of them, but it seems like everyone thinks he's overrated.


Or is everyone right if they think hes overrated.
Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:53 a.m.
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I'm saying everyone thinks he's overrated. If everyone thinks he's overrated, then not all those people are right. Maybe one or two of them, but it seems like everyone thinks he's overrated.


maybe everyone on here believes he's overrated because of that one guy who comments on every risto trade
Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:58 a.m.
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I forgot colin miller was on buffalo too, hes right up there with risto.
Jul. 22, 2019 at 11:28 a.m.
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maybe everyone on here believes he's overrated because of that one guy who comments on every risto trade


Who?
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Jul. 22, 2019 at 11:54 a.m.
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People ofter conflate overrated w/ overpaid...At least I do. That's what makes this a difficult, but worthwhile debate. Maybe Risto could really benefit from not having to play top pairing minutes on a better defensive team. I don't know what his advanced stats look like, but they cannot be very good. I still think he'll be traded before his current contract expires, especially as Dahlin takes over as the team's #1 D (he probably will be next season anyway). He does have high offensive upside and he could really benefit from playing 2nd pair on a better team. I don't even know where he'd be a good fit. I was thinking NDJ or NYR until they made major upgrades this summer. Maybe MTL???
Jul. 22, 2019 at 12:00 p.m.
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People ofter conflate overrated w/ overpaid...At least I do. That's what makes this a difficult, but worthwhile debate. Maybe Risto could really benefit from not having to play top pairing minutes on a better defensive team. I don't know what his advanced stats look like, but they cannot be very good. I still think he'll be traded before his current contract expires, especially as Dahlin takes over as the team's #1 D (he probably will be next season anyway). He does have high offensive upside and he could really benefit from playing 2nd pair on a better team. I don't even know where he'd be a good fit. I was thinking NDJ or NYR until they made major upgrades this summer. Maybe MTL???


I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved before the start of the 2019-20 season ... also, overrated and overpaid are 2 totally different things. James Neal WHEN HE WAS SIGNED was overrated, but he isn't any more IMO.
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Jul. 22, 2019 at 12:11 p.m.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved before the start of the 2019-20 season ... also, overrated and overpaid are 2 totally different things. James Neal WHEN HE WAS SIGNED was overrated, but he isn't any more IMO.


Agreed. But there are tons of players who are both overrated AND overpaid. Probably not a ton of overrated AND underpaid. Excluding the few players on your list that are still on ELC's (only a couple), almost all are highly paid.
Jul. 22, 2019 at 2:32 p.m.
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Agreed. But there are tons of players who are both overrated AND overpaid. Probably not a ton of overrated AND underpaid. Excluding the few players on your list that are still on ELC's (only a couple), almost all are highly paid.


IMO Sammy Blais. 850K but overrated by most people.
Jul. 22, 2019 at 2:34 p.m.
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Agreed. But there are tons of players who are both overrated AND overpaid. Probably not a ton of overrated AND underpaid. Excluding the few players on your list that are still on ELC's (only a couple), almost all are highly paid.

Some guys are overpaid and overrated, but probably not guys we agree on. Subban and Laine were voted most overrated by the players, but voting for overrated players isn't the best way to figure it out because if enough people say they're overrated, they probably aren't. The only difference here, though, is that they are the players, and they play against/with these players, so maybe they are overrated by the fans ... but most fans mention those guys (especially Laine) as overrated. I think Laine might be underrated actually. So many people say he's overrated but that's what makes me think those people who say he's overrated may be underrating him.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 1:51 p.m.
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Anaheim: Rickard Rakell
Arizona: Alex Goligoski
Boston: Charlie Coyle
Buffalo: Marco Scandella
Calgary: Michael Frolik
Carolina: Trevor Van-Riemsdyk
Chicago: Brandon Saad
Colorado: Andre Burakovsky
Columbus: Oliver Bjorkstrand
Dallas: Mattias Janmark
Detroit: Jimmy Howard
Edmonton: Oscar Klefbom
Florida: Sergei Bobrovsky
Los Angeles: Dustin Brown
Minnesota: Jason Zucker
Montreal: Jonathan Drouin
Nashville: Juuse Saros:
New Jersey: Wayne Simmonds
NY Islanders: Semyon Varlamov
NY Rangers: Jesper Fast
Ottawa: Ron Hainsey
Philadelphia: Oskar Lindblom
Pittsburgh: Jared McCann
San Jose: Evander Kane
St. Louis: Sammy Blais
Tampa Bay: Yanni Gourde
Toronto: William Nylander
Vancouver: Tanner Pearson
Vegas: Cody Eakin
Washington: Tom Wilson
Winnipeg: Dustin Byfuglien


Why is McCann overrated? The guy has great play driving ability, stick handling, skating and all round awareness. That’s why he thrived on Crosby’s line.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 3:20 p.m.
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Why is McCann overrated? The guy has great play driving ability, stick handling, skating and all round awareness. That’s why he thrived on Crosby’s line.


I couldn't think of anyone else for Pittsburgh. I never said he's bad. He just hasn't put up those numbers consistently and maybe people are overrating him a little bit.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 4:12 p.m.
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I couldn't think of anyone else for Pittsburgh. I never said he's bad. He just hasn't put up those numbers consistently and maybe people are overrating him a little bit.


Ah well honestly he looked like that top rated prospect during his short time with the Penguins. What about Dominik Simon?
Aug. 2, 2019 at 4:41 p.m.
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Ah well honestly he looked like that top rated prospect during his short time with the Penguins. What about Dominik Simon?


I don't see him as overrated. We're not supposed to agree anyway, because it's partly based on what others think.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.
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I don't see him as overrated. We're not supposed to agree anyway, because it's partly based on what others think.


Yeah some people think Simon is underrated because he has really good stick handling and possession driving abilities, but I personally think advanced stats are overrated. Do you think Sheary is overrated?
Aug. 2, 2019 at 5:48 p.m.
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ANA - Getzlaf
ARI - OEL
BOS - Kuraly
BUF - Scandella
CGY - Hanifin
CAR - Foegle
CHI - Seabrook/Perlini
COL - idk..
CLB - Dubinsky
DAL - Methot
DET - Green or Larkin
EDM - Larsson
FLD - Vinny Trochek
LA - Jeff
MIN - Fiala
MTRL - Droiun
NASH - Turris
NJ - Green
NYI - Eberle
NYR - Staal
OTT - JGP
PHLY - Hagg/Hartman
PIT - Crosby? Brassard
SJ - Vlasic
STL - Barbashev
TBL - Um...no one...Erne
TOR - Zaitsev
VAN - Errikson
VGK - Paccioretty
WSH - KUZNETSOV
WPG - Ellers
Aug. 2, 2019 at 6:01 p.m.
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Yeah some people think Simon is underrated because he has really good stick handling and possession driving abilities, but I personally think advanced stats are overrated. Do you think Sheary is overrated?


no
Aug. 2, 2019 at 6:03 p.m.
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ANA - Getzlaf
ARI - OEL
BOS - Kuraly
BUF - Scandella
CGY - Hanifin
CAR - Foegle
CHI - Seabrook/Perlini
COL - idk..
CLB - Dubinsky
DAL - Methot
DET - Green or Larkin
EDM - Larsson
FLD - Vinny Trochek
LA - Jeff
MIN - Fiala
MTRL - Droiun
NASH - Turris
NJ - Green
NYI - Eberle
NYR - Staal
OTT - JGP
PHLY - Hagg/Hartman
PIT - Crosby? Brassard
SJ - Vlasic
STL - Barbashev
TBL - Um...no one...Erne
TOR - Zaitsev
VAN - Errikson
VGK - Paccioretty
WSH - KUZNETSOV
WPG - Ellers


Buddy, I got news for you. Brassard no longer plays for the Pens.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 6:03 p.m.
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no


Can you explain why not?
Aug. 2, 2019 at 6:03 p.m.
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ANA - Getzlaf
ARI - OEL
BOS - Kuraly
BUF - Scandella
CGY - Hanifin
CAR - Foegle
CHI - Seabrook/Perlini
COL - idk..
CLB - Dubinsky
DAL - Methot
DET - Green or Larkin
EDM - Larsson
FLD - Vinny Trochek
LA - Jeff
MIN - Fiala
MTRL - Droiun
NASH - Turris
NJ - Green
NYI - Eberle
NYR - Staal
OTT - JGP
PHLY - Hagg/Hartman
PIT - Crosby? Brassard
SJ - Vlasic
STL - Barbashev
TBL - Um...no one...Erne
TOR - Zaitsev
VAN - Errikson
VGK - Paccioretty
WSH - KUZNETSOV
WPG - Ellers

Brassard is a UFA and most recently played for Colorado ... Zaitsev is in Ottawa ... Methot is probably done.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 6:04 p.m.
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Can you explain why not?


Because i don't think he's any worse than most people think he is.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 6:05 p.m.
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Buddy, I got news for you. Brassard no longer plays for the Pens.


I was looking at stats from last year not now...
 
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