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    Jul. 16, 2019 at 6:49 a.m.
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    Yeah that is not even close. Nelson himself can get that package
    Jul. 16, 2019 at 7:36 a.m.
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    Quoting: BigDog91
    Yeah that is not even close. Nelson himself can get that package


    Um, what?
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    Jul. 16, 2019 at 8:15 a.m.
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Um, what?


    Silverberg has negative value in basically okoposo. Cap dump. Terrible contract. Spring is young has some value but not enough to take on silverberg contract.
    Jul. 16, 2019 at 8:30 a.m.
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    Throw Richie in that Sabres deal please
    Jul. 16, 2019 at 8:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: BigDog91
    Silverberg has negative value in basically okoposo. Cap dump. Terrible contract. Spring is young has some value but not enough to take on silverberg contract.


    Do you even hockey Bruv. 43 points in 73 games is not a cap dump lol
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    Jul. 16, 2019 at 9:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: BruinsWillWin2020
    Do you even hockey Bruv. 43 points in 73 games is not a cap dump lol


    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Um, what?


    Bruv is going to be 29 and 33 when contract is over. He is on the decline with a big cap hit. He wouldnt even make our top 9. I would even have tage thompson over him. Sprong is same level has thompson but with less upside. Why would sabres make that deal. It makes them worse now and in alot worse in the future.
    Jul. 16, 2019 at 9:18 a.m.
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    That's an easy no from Buffalo, I like Silverberg as a third liner but that's about it, Sprong is also just a top 9 player not really good enough to handle the top 6 minutes yet. Both those guys together wouldn't get you Risto alone so I don't know how you think they get you Tage Thompson and Nelson
    Jul. 16, 2019 at 10:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: BigDog91
    Silverberg has negative value in basically okoposo. Cap dump. Terrible contract. Spring is young has some value but not enough to take on silverberg contract.


    I mean that's not true at all. He just scored 24 goals
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    Jul. 16, 2019 at 10:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: BigDog91
    Bruv is going to be 29 and 33 when contract is over. He is on the decline with a big cap hit. He wouldnt even make our top 9. I would even have tage thompson over him. Sprong is same level has thompson but with less upside. Why would sabres make that deal. It makes them worse now and in alot worse in the future.


    Just gibberish
    Jul. 16, 2019 at 12:08 p.m.
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    Apparently veteran, 20+ goal scorers who happen to be excellent penalty killers grow on trees and make next to nothing. Man, Buffalo should just go snatch one off the street since there should be plenty to choose from.
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    Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: BigDog91
    Bruv is going to be 29 and 33 when contract is over. He is on the decline with a big cap hit. He wouldnt even make our top 9. I would even have tage thompson over him. Sprong is same level has thompson but with less upside. Why would sabres make that deal. It makes them worse now and in alot worse in the future.


    "Wouldn't even make our top 9"?!?!? Here are the four guys you currently have on the roster who MIGHT spend time at RW:

    Reinhart 22-43=65
    Vesey (a leftie) 17-18=35
    Sheary (a leftie) 14-20=34
    Okposo 14-15=29

    When Reinhart starts every penalty kill possible, then he might be comparable to Silfverberg -- who would easily surpass 50 points playing alongside Eichel and Skinner.

    In short, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.
    Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    That's an easy no from Buffalo, I like Silverberg as a third liner but that's about it, Sprong is also just a top 9 player not really good enough to handle the top 6 minutes yet. Both those guys together wouldn't get you Risto alone so I don't know how you think they get you Tage Thompson and Nelson


    "Third liner"? He outscored all the RW's on your roster except Sam Reinhart. And he kills penalties, which NONE of your RW's do with any skill.
    Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    "Third liner"? He outscored all the RW's on your roster except Sam Reinhart. And he kills penalties, which NONE of your RW's do with any skill.


    First we are not trading for guy to kill penalties. We were 12th last year which was better then ducks (20th) we also added vesey and johnsson who both kill penalties and improved our defense so much we are looking to trade our #1 dman.
    2 I think Thompson will be better then silverberg as early as next year.
    3 Nelson was one of our best dman last year and using him as a throw in and has more value then that.
    4 silverberg is a third liner and is salary dump. He has 0 value and getting to point where it is negative value. We traded a third for vesey how is silverberg worth so much more that we need to trade Thompson Nelson and risto for him.
    5 you guys are out to lunch. You like him so much keep him.


    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    "Wouldn't even make our top 9"?!?!? Here are the four guys you currently have on the roster who MIGHT spend time at RW:

    Reinhart 22-43=65
    Vesey (a leftie) 17-18=35
    Sheary (a leftie) 14-20=34
    Okposo 14-15=29

    When Reinhart starts every penalty kill possible, then he might be comparable to Silfverberg -- who would easily surpass 50 points playing alongside Eichel and Skinner.

    In short, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.
    Jul. 20, 2019 at 2:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: BigDog91
    First we are not trading for guy to kill penalties. We were 12th last year which was better then ducks (20th) we also added vesey and johnsson who both kill penalties and improved our defense so much we are looking to trade our #1 dman.
    2 I think Thompson will be better then silverberg as early as next year.
    3 Nelson was one of our best dman last year and using him as a throw in and has more value then that.
    4 silverberg is a third liner and is salary dump. He has 0 value and getting to point where it is negative value. We traded a third for vesey how is silverberg worth so much more that we need to trade Thompson Nelson and risto for him.
    5 you guys are out to lunch. You like him so much keep him.


    can i report a post for someone being a blatant homer and lying?

    1) You're not trading him for just his PK ability. You would be adding him to bring a strong 40-50 point winger who is also strong, near elite defensively. He would be an improvement on your top 6 both offensively and defensively.

    2) you think the guy with a career 21 points in 106 NHL games is going to be better than the consistent 40+ player who has been a part of the Ducks shutdown line of (Cogs-Kesler-Silf) while we also a top team in the league. Silf has more career playoff points (45 points in 68 games) than Thompson has in those 106 games. Silf has always been a near elite defensive winger who can put up 20+ goals when given offensive opportunities. He has yet to play with an strong offensive center since joining the Ducks.

    3) If Nelson, a 27 year old who hasn't played more than 40 games in an NHL season was your best D man, than maybe that's why the Sabres were worse than Ducks (we had our worst season in our history)

    4) Silf is not a third liner, he's a top 6 winger. in near reality is a 40-50 point winger who is strong defensively a cap dump, especially when his contract is only 5.25$. market rate for players like him. you literally prove how clueless about Silf and about hockey in general you are by saying he has 0 value. I'm not commentating on the trade itself (i wouldn't do it as Ducks fan because Risto horrendous defensively and I'm not giving up our best RW for a PP specialist, a 27 year old rookie D and prospect who hasn't proven anything in 100+ NHL games). But you're ignoring that Sprong has the higest potential of anyone in this trade.

    5) Those aren't even Ducks fans you're responding too, LOL
    Jul. 20, 2019 at 3:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: dracomaster01
    can i report a post for someone being a blatant homer and lying?

    1) You're not trading him for just his PK ability. You would be adding him to bring a strong 40-50 point winger who is also strong, near elite defensively. He would be an improvement on your top 6 both offensively and defensively.

    2) you think the guy with a career 21 points in 106 NHL games is going to be better than the consistent 40+ player who has been a part of the Ducks shutdown line of (Cogs-Kesler-Silf) while we also a top team in the league. Silf has more career playoff points (45 points in 68 games) than Thompson has in those 106 games. Silf has always been a near elite defensive winger who can put up 20+ goals when given offensive opportunities. He has yet to play with an strong offensive center since joining the Ducks.

    3) If Nelson, a 27 year old who hasn't played more than 40 games in an NHL season was your best D man, than maybe that's why the Sabres were worse than Ducks (we had our worst season in our history)

    4) Silf is not a third liner, he's a top 6 winger. in near reality is a 40-50 point winger who is strong defensively a cap dump, especially when his contract is only 5.25$. market rate for players like him. you literally prove how clueless about Silf and about hockey in general you are by saying he has 0 value. I'm not commentating on the trade itself (i wouldn't do it as Ducks fan because Risto horrendous defensively and I'm not giving up our best RW for a PP specialist, a 27 year old rookie D and prospect who hasn't proven anything in 100+ NHL games). But you're ignoring that Sprong has the higest potential of anyone in this trade.

    5) Those aren't even Ducks fans you're responding too, LOL


    1. Sabres do not need strong 40-50 point guy. We just picked up two 40-50 point guys. We have olfsson who u probably don’t know of but will put up 20 goals this year and might have best shot in nhl. Thompson came into rookie camp as the best player by far has the speed and shot to play top six. Reinhart proved last year he doesn’t need to play with jack to put up 60+ points and can be the qb on his own line on the wing. Sabres are missing 2c for 2 years. Silverberg is not that.

    2.) he is 21 and his body was huge but never was able to fill it in because he is only 21. He was a first round pick and one of the Sabres best prospects and Sabres have a lot of very good prospects. I do believe he will put up around 30-40 points and has potential to be 50+ And 30 goals. Not trading him straight up for 30 year old past his prime winger.

    3.) the advance stats guys love Nelson he moves the puck well and does all the small things very well. The advance stats say he was one of our best dman. He is a great bottom pairing on super cheap deal.

    4. On a good team silf is a third liner. You are calling me homer look at his stats they are not top six stats. He is good defensive winger which would be great to have on third line that plays against other teams top line. Like kadri type third line last year for leafs.

    Sabres will not trade our best prospect, top 4 dman who is young and a Pernianal 40+ RHD, bottom pairing RHD with cap hit under million for 29 year winger on deal which he will be 33 at the end at over 5 million and lottery ticket winger who couldn’t make it playing with Malkin and Crosby. Makes 0 sense.

    Silverbergs contract is looking so much worse with all the recent signing.

    Player. Silverberg. Johnsson. Ferland. Dzingel.
    Age. 29. 28. 27. 27
    Contract. 5x5.250. 2x 4.5. 4x3.5. 2x3.2750
    Goals/82 25. 18. 22. 26
    Points/82 43. 42. 46. 56

    So contract does not look good. When u could similar ages player a lot cheaper on shorter deal and have produce same amount or more.
    Jul. 25, 2019 at 8:36 p.m.
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    Okay, ignoring the rest of the nonsense that people put on here just to disagree with trades somehow, I just think buffalo is adamant in getting a 2C for risto somehow.
     
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