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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 17, 2019
Published: Jul. 17, 2019
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G
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD
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$675,000$675,000
RD
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Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:07 a.m.
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You clicked on the wrong Toronto winger in that trade. Easy mistake.
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Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:09 a.m.
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have seen that trade dozens of times on here and it's never good.

if you want assets from columbus, take notes: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1330574
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Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:15 a.m.
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If Seth Jones were available it would cost Marner, And no way Marner accepts that offer. He'd already be resigned by if that were the case. You're at least $3 million under his asking price.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:24 a.m.
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If Seth Jones were available it would cost Marner, And no way Marner accepts that offer. He'd already be resigned by if that were the case. You're at least $3 million under his asking price.


I wouldn't offer him that much for 4 years. 4 years is the best term for Marner and worse for the Leafs. That walks him to UFA without buying any UFA years.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:41 a.m.
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If Seth Jones were available it would cost Marner, And no way Marner accepts that offer. He'd already be resigned by if that were the case. You're at least $3 million under his asking price.


And his asking price makes himself look like a complete idiot. Even this 4 year deal at Draisaitl money is too much considering it's half the term and Leon has outscored him.

It is looking more and more like there is no room for Marner and his ego on the Leafs.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:46 a.m.
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And his asking price makes himself look like a complete idiot. Even this 4 year deal at Draisaitl money is too much considering it's half the term and Leon has outscored him.

It is looking more and more like there is no room for Marner and his ego on the Leafs.


I agree other than his fathers ego can't fit into Scotiabank Centre. But i have to hope that like nylander he is going to have to accept his true market value.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:48 a.m.
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If Seth Jones were available it would cost Marner, And no way Marner accepts that offer. He'd already be resigned by if that were the case. You're at least $3 million under his asking price.


Marner absolutely accepts that. Walks him right to UFA and doesn't buy out any UFA years. in 4 years he becomes the highest paid player in the league. Leafs never offer 4 years.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:56 a.m.
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I agree other than his fathers ego can't fit into Scotiabank Centre. But i have to hope that like nylander he is going to have to accept his true market value.


I hope he doesn't. Slide Nylander in there and watch him outscore the kid asking for 8 figures.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:56 a.m.
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Marner absolutely accepts that. Walks him right to UFA and doesn't buy out any UFA years. in 4 years he becomes the highest paid player in the league. Leafs never offer 4 years.


He is waiting at home right now for a team to make him the highest paid player in the league. All I hear is crickets.
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Jul. 17, 2019 at 10:59 a.m.
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He is waiting at home right now for a team to make him the highest paid player in the league. All I hear is crickets.


well, ya. He's an RFA. Did you miss literally the entire point of the previous post?
Jul. 17, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.
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I agree other than his fathers ego can't fit into Scotiabank Centre. But i have to hope that like nylander he is going to have to accept his true market value.


When did Nylander accept his true value.. he got what he asked for.. not to mention got paid for the whole season, even though he missed half of the season.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 11:45 a.m.
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And his asking price makes himself look like a complete idiot. Even this 4 year deal at Draisaitl money is too much considering it's half the term and Leon has outscored him.

It is looking more and more like there is no room for Marner and his ego on the Leafs.


In fairness, marner is better than drasital was when he signed the contract. Not saying he is now, but at the same age Marners better.

and drasital signed for 11.3% of the cap, if u do that to todays salary cap it would be 9.3mil, which I think is more fair
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:06 p.m.
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well, ya. He's an RFA. Did you miss literally the entire point of the previous post?


That's overshadowed with the suggestion of Marner being the highest paid in the league.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:11 p.m.
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In fairness, marner is better than drasital was when he signed the contract. Not saying he is now, but at the same age Marners better.

and drasital signed for 11.3% of the cap, if u do that to todays salary cap it would be 9.3mil, which I think is more fair


9.3/6 was a fair deal, now Aho signed for 8.5/5. Aho drives play better, way better defensively, and plays center AND they are same age part of the same draft. Sorry Marner, but your new comparable signed an offersheet agreeing he is worth 8.5/5. Thats where it starts for me.

Everyone can say Marner wont sign that, then sit out. If you own a house worth 1Mil, but are trying to sell it for 5Mil youre crazy. You may try, but the market in the area you live isnt willing to pay that much. And unless a crazy buyer comes in(offer sheet) and will give you youre stupid demands tough, you may want 5Mil, but you need to bring yourself down into reality. Aho-8.5/5, point is rumored on a 8-9/5 as well. Kane signed 11% of the cap. All comparables or better. Yes with no cap id give marner the moon, but in reality where he lives, if he wants to play he has to take a fair offer.

Also, all reports say Columbus and maybe the Isles have worked on offer sheets in the 11-12.5/7-8 range. Marner turned them down, because he wants to be a Leaf and wanted a contract that the leafs would be willing to match. So if thats the case, all those rumors are true, Mitch, you just lost all negotiating power. If you arent wiling to sign an offersheet and leave, you arent leaving, so sign the contract. Becasue after Oct 2, youre out for the season....
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:13 p.m.
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That's overshadowed with the suggestion of Marner being the highest paid in the league.


okay, so yes, you did miss basically every word with the exception of four. I'll slow it down.

If Toronto signs him to a four year deal, he will be walked to UFA without buying out any UFA years. This has never happened in league history, or at least in the history of the cap.
Marner will have turned 26 a month or two prior to turning UFA, presumably, an elite player. He would become the highest paid player in the league, until the following off season when Matthews breaks that record. Then a couple years later McDavid breaks that and the world goes on.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:14 p.m.
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9.3/6 was a fair deal, now Aho signed for 8.5/5. Aho drives play better, way better defensively, and plays center AND they are same age part of the same draft. Sorry Marner, but your new comparable signed an offersheet agreeing he is worth 8.5/5. Thats where it starts for me.

Everyone can say Marner wont sign that, then sit out. If you own a house worth 1Mil, but are trying to sell it for 5Mil youre crazy. You may try, but the market in the area you live isnt willing to pay that much. And unless a crazy buyer comes in(offer sheet) and will give you youre stupid demands tough, you may want 5Mil, but you need to bring yourself down into reality. Aho-8.5/5, point is rumored on a 8-9/5 as well. Kane signed 11% of the cap. All comparables or better. Yes with no cap id give marner the moon, but in reality where he lives, if he wants to play he has to take a fair offer.

Also, all reports say Columbus and maybe the Isles have worked on offer sheets in the 11-12.5/7-8 range. Marner turned them down, because he wants to be a Leaf and wanted a contract that the leafs would be willing to match. So if thats the case, all those rumors are true, Mitch, you just lost all negotiating power. If you arent wiling to sign an offersheet and leave, you arent leaving, so sign the contract. Becasue after Oct 2, youre out for the season....


problem is everyone set the bar at 9 million before last season and after the season it jumped to 11 million.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:16 p.m.
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problem is everyone set the bar at 9 million before last season and after the season it jumped to 11 million.


How? Aho set the bar literally 3 weeks ago or so. How did it jump? It hasnt, except marners camp, and dregger keep saying he wants 11. Well he isnt worth it. Thats also not how % of cap works
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:18 p.m.
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9.3/6 was a fair deal, now Aho signed for 8.5/5. Aho drives play better, way better defensively, and plays center AND they are same age part of the same draft. Sorry Marner, but your new comparable signed an offersheet agreeing he is worth 8.5/5. Thats where it starts for me.

Everyone can say Marner wont sign that, then sit out. If you own a house worth 1Mil, but are trying to sell it for 5Mil youre crazy. You may try, but the market in the area you live isnt willing to pay that much. And unless a crazy buyer comes in(offer sheet) and will give you youre stupid demands tough, you may want 5Mil, but you need to bring yourself down into reality. Aho-8.5/5, point is rumored on a 8-9/5 as well. Kane signed 11% of the cap. All comparables or better. Yes with no cap id give marner the moon, but in reality where he lives, if he wants to play he has to take a fair offer.

Also, all reports say Columbus and maybe the Isles have worked on offer sheets in the 11-12.5/7-8 range. Marner turned them down, because he wants to be a Leaf and wanted a contract that the leafs would be willing to match. So if thats the case, all those rumors are true, Mitch, you just lost all negotiating power. If you arent wiling to sign an offersheet and leave, you arent leaving, so sign the contract. Becasue after Oct 2, youre out for the season....


Marner also wants a 5 year deal. And leafs fans would lose there minds if marner sat out the whole year and the leafs go on a losing streak. If marner sits out the leafs are not top 5 contenders anymore, so im sure the leafs want him to sign. So he has negotiating powers still.

if youre getting mad at marner and what he wants, you should start putting some of that anger towards Matthews, as he got exactly what he wanted and at 5 years.

The Aho comparable is out the window when the next big RFA signing comes out, if Rantanen gets 9x5 then what?

and ps kane cap hit was 15.2% when he signed
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:22 p.m.
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How? Aho set the bar literally 3 weeks ago or so. How did it jump? It hasnt, except marners camp, and dregger keep saying he wants 11. Well he isnt worth it. Thats also not how % of cap works


This. This is why:

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Marner also wants a 5 year deal. And leafs fans would lose there minds if marner sat out the whole year and the leafs go on a losing streak. If marner sits out the leafs are not top 5 contenders anymore, so im sure the leafs want him to sign. So he has negotiating powers still.

if youre getting mad at marner and what he wants, you should start putting some of that anger towards Matthews, as he got exactly what he wanted and at 5 years.

The Aho comparable is out the window when the next big RFA signing comes out, if Rantanen gets 9x5 then what?

and ps kane cap hit was 15.2% when he signed


majority of sports fans are dunderheads and will parrot anything they hear on tv/radio. for marner's agent, it helps to have a friend at tsn that says his client wants 11 million.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:24 p.m.
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Marner also wants a 5 year deal. And leafs fans would lose there minds if marner sat out the whole year and the leafs go on a losing streak. If marner sits out the leafs are not top 5 contenders anymore, so im sure the leafs want him to sign. So he has negotiating powers still.

if youre getting mad at marner and what he wants, you should start putting some of that anger towards Matthews, as he got exactly what he wanted and at 5 years.

The Aho comparable is out the window when the next big RFA signing comes out, if Rantanen gets 9x5 then what?

and ps kane cap hit was 15.2% when he signed


PS... it was 11%. His second deal out of his entry level was 6.3Mil/5 years. 10.5 yes was much higher on his 3rd contract... Wrong comparable dude...

Aho comparable still holds water. What do you think Rantanen, Point, Marner, Matt tkachuk. Only outlier is Laine because with his seasons who the **** knows. But all other GMs are using Aho as a comparable...

And when Rantanen signs for 9/5, maybe slightly high but in the realm of what he should be getting. He is also a great Marner Comparable.

In Order of RFAs in my opinion based on Skill, position, points ect..
1. Point
2. Aho
3. Marner
4. Rantanen
5. tkachuk
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:28 p.m.
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When did Nylander accept his true value.. he got what he asked for.. not to mention got paid for the whole season, even though he missed half of the season.


He was asking for 8.5-9 million at one point so how is not at least closer to market value?
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
This. This is why:



majority of sports fans are dunderheads and will parrot anything they hear on tv/radio. for marner's agent, it helps to have a friend at tsn that says his client wants 11 million.


And Logical, take your time and emotion out of it Dubas, who has said all the right things is going to out of the blue cave to emotion from Dregger, Ferris, Marners Camp.

Funny enough Ferris(Marners agent) has done this with 3-4 other RFAs. He stirs up the media, team doesnt cave, near training camp he threatens europe and then just before training camp starts the player caves to a below market AAV. One thing i dont think he accounted for was how excausted all of toronto has become and turned on him and marner. Ah wells

But I have a hard time seeing Dubas cave to peer pressure given the history
Jul. 17, 2019 at 12:39 p.m.
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And Logical, take your time and emotion out of it Dubas, who has said all the right things is going to out of the blue cave to emotion from Dregger, Ferris, Marners Camp.

Funny enough Ferris(Marners agent) has done this with 3-4 other RFAs. He stirs up the media, team doesnt cave, near training camp he threatens europe and then just before training camp starts the player caves to a below market AAV. One thing i dont think he accounted for was how excausted all of toronto has become and turned on him and marner. Ah wells

But I have a hard time seeing Dubas cave to peer pressure given the history


everyone will eventually forgive marner. hometown boy doesn't have a whole lot to worry about.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 7:51 p.m.
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okay, so yes, you did miss basically every word with the exception of four. I'll slow it down.

If Toronto signs him to a four year deal, he will be walked to UFA without buying out any UFA years. This has never happened in league history, or at least in the history of the cap.
Marner will have turned 26 a month or two prior to turning UFA, presumably, an elite player. He would become the highest paid player in the league, until the following off season when Matthews breaks that record. Then a couple years later McDavid breaks that and the world goes on.


Thank you for painstakingly going over the obvious, yet again. It remains irrelevant for obvious reasons. What I still find comical is the belief that Marner is the best free agent in any year and/or the highest paid player in the league....even for a day. The circus around this player is so overblown and unwarranted it is both frustrating and hilarious.

He is a good player and in this fishbowl everyone seems to forget that there are 30 other teams with good players as well, many of whom are far superior than Marner.
Jul. 17, 2019 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Goulet
Thank you for painstakingly going over the obvious, yet again. It remains irrelevant for obvious reasons. What I still find comical is the belief that Marner is the best free agent in any year and/or the highest paid player in the league....even for a day. The circus around this player is so overblown and unwarranted it is both frustrating and hilarious.

He is a good player and in this fishbowl everyone seems to forget that there are 30 other teams with good players as well, many of whom are far superior than Marner.


Any of those teams just dish out 5 years and 11.634 to a similar rfa that Marner has out performed in back to back years?
 
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