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Marner on a bridge

Created by: nchest
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 17, 2019
Published: Jul. 17, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
If Marner signs a 3 year $8m contract
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$8,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$2,500,000
2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
6$7,500,000
4$4,750,000
1$950,000
Trades
TOR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (ANA)
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Just picked the Ducks, could be any team for a pick or non NHL salary
ANA
  1. Hyman, Zach
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Similar to Brown, the Leafs won't be able to afford a guy like Hyman, need to rely on young entry level contracts to stay under the cap.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,322,616$0$400,000$177,384
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,500,000$1,500,000
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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Moore, Trevor
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
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UFA - 5
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Marner, Mitchell
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW
UFA - 5
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Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000$3,400,000
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000$3,500,000
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Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000$3,200,000
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Marchment, Mason
$750,000$750,000
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Petan, Nicolas
$775,000$775,000
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UFA - 1
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Agostino, Kenny
$737,500$737,500
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UFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptKorshkov, Yegor
$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
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UFA - 2
Pietrangelo, Alex
$7,500,000$7,500,000
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UFA - 7
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Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 1
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Dermott, Travis
$2,500,000$2,500,000
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UFA - 1
Hamonic, Travis
$4,750,000$4,750,000
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Woll, Joseph
$800,000$800,000
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Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167$894,167
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Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
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Biega, Alex
$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 20, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.
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Bcarlo25
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Quoting: drewjenks
Because Matthews has scored more goals per minute than anyone in the NHL since he entered the league.

1. Matthews
2. Ovechkin
Large Gap
3. The rest

He is also about 5th in the NHL in points per minute since entering the league.

To put that in perspective ... since Marner entered the league on the same day ... he's ranks roughly:

110th in goals per minute
60th in points per minute
35th in assists per minute

And he's a winger ... you really think these guys earned the same contract?


But, rfa...no leverage, right?
Jul. 20, 2019 at 6:48 p.m.
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But, rfa...no leverage, right?


Exactly ... What would the leagues number 1 goal scorer over 3 seasons get as a UFA ... considering what Panarin got ?

Marner (without leverage) deserves around 9.5 million long term ... not the same as Matthews ... my argument hasn't changed man.
Jul. 20, 2019 at 6:49 p.m.
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Jul. 20, 2019 at 9:06 p.m.
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Exactly ... What would the leagues number 1 goal scorer over 3 seasons get as a UFA ... considering what Panarin got ?

Marner (without leverage) deserves around 9.5 million long term ... not the same as Matthews ... my argument hasn't changed man.


But Matthews had no leverage? Right?
Jul. 21, 2019 at 12:53 a.m.
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But Matthews had no leverage? Right?


Correct ... he didn't have any real leverage as an RFA.

But having the highest goals per 60 in the NHL (over his first 3 seasons combined) was enough to get a fair contract.
Matthews might have also had the leverage of a potential offer sheet.
But that didn't materialize for Marner because no one wanted to give up 4 first round picks for the privilege of over-paying him.

No team is willing to give Marner the offer sheet he wants ... so what leverage do you think he has left?
Besides sitting out and losing $10,000,000.
Jul. 21, 2019 at 11:37 a.m.
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Quoting: drewjenks
Correct ... he didn't have any real leverage as an RFA.

But having the highest goals per 60 in the NHL (over his first 3 seasons combined) was enough to get a fair contract.
Matthews might have also had the leverage of a potential offer sheet.
But that didn't materialize for Marner because no one wanted to give up 4 first round picks for the privilege of over-paying him.

No team is willing to give Marner the offer sheet he wants ... so what leverage do you think he has left?
Besides sitting out and losing $10,000,000.


But you said RFAs have no leverage. Why was Matthews asking for 13.8 on a long term deal? Why did he get such a high cap hit for only buying out one year of ufa? He had no leverage. RFAs never do, right?
Jul. 22, 2019 at 9:51 p.m.
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But you said RFAs have no leverage. Why was Matthews asking for 13.8 on a long term deal? Why did he get such a high cap hit for only buying out one year of ufa? He had no leverage. RFAs never do, right?


OK now you're just repeating and ignoring the answer ...
Jul. 22, 2019 at 10:52 p.m.
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OK now you're just repeating and ignoring the answer ...


I'm just trying to understand. You said RFA's have no leverage, and cited that as a reason that Marner won't get much money. Yet, another RFA on his team kind of get an unprecedented contract, one that made him the second highest paid guy in the NHL, and all that for only buying out one year of UFA. Just wondering how that happened if he didn't have any leverage.
Jul. 23, 2019 at 6:43 a.m.
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I'm just trying to understand. You said RFA's have no leverage, and cited that as a reason that Marner won't get much money. Yet, another RFA on his team kind of get an unprecedented contract, one that made him the second highest paid guy in the NHL, and all that for only buying out one year of UFA. Just wondering how that happened if he didn't have any leverage.


He's been the best goal scorer in the league since entering the league. I said that.
Jul. 23, 2019 at 8:26 a.m.
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He's been the best goal scorer in the league since entering the league. I said that.


Ovechkin has more goals per game. Four other players have more goals over that period. Besides the point though. You made the blanket statement that rfas have no leverage. Are you backing down on that now?
Jul. 23, 2019 at 8:39 a.m.
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Ovechkin has more goals per game. Four other players have more goals over that period. Besides the point though. You made the blanket statement that rfas have no leverage. Are you backing down on that now?


LMAO.

Nope I am not ... Players get paid based on their performance ... RFA's don't have the leverage of competing offers.

Matthews is #1 (above Ovechkin) in GOALS PER 60 MINUTES since he entered the league 3 years ago ... so he got PAID.

McDavid got paid because he was #1 in points per 60 ... Matthews got paid because he was #1 in goals per 60.

I don't really know what to sat anymore. Marner isn't in the top 30 in anything per 60 since entering the league.
 
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