Quoting: Bcarlo25
why wouldn't he have signed this by now were he willing. he wants matthews money. He'll probably get close to it. What do you mean facts? This is all kind of what we think will happen right? Marner has lead the leafs in points the last two years. there's a fact for you. He's going to get paid, and it isn't going to be a laughable 6x2.
This is the problem. You are arguing for emotion and feelings and what he wants. I want the house I own to be worth 5Million dollars. But if the market of the area in which I live and what buyers who want to buy are willing to pay is only 800K, well im **** out of luck. I may be upset my house wont sell for 5Mil, but what i am asking for is not in the realm of reality. Its literally the exact same thing with Mitch Marner.
6x2 is laughable?
Kucherov took a 6.5% cap hit for 3 years. 4.5Mil/year. Today that would only be 5Mil/3. Its in the realm of reasonable for Marner to take a 6x2. Kucherov at the time was at least as good as marner. Most likely better than him.
Kane-Marners comparable since CHL, and even the NHL. Very similar players and skillset. 2nd contract 6.3Mil/5 years. Total 11% of the Cap. in todays Money 9.3Mil/5 years
Aho - same age as marner, drives play better, plays center(more valuable), scores more goals(more valueable) and is better defensively. 8.5Mil/5. He agreed he was worth this by signing it.
Point - Basically rumors in TBL have him around 8.2-9.2/5 year deal. Point is better than both Aho and Marner.
Marner - has no recieved a single offersheet. Has said he wants to stay in Toronto. Boom negotiating power is gone
Also serious question - would marner have scored as many goals playing without Taraves. Id argue no. You need a finisher. We've seen what marner can do, but marner making passes to Kadri, Kapanen, Johnsson, Hyman all year, having them mishandle the puck, have it bounce of shinguards, not being in the right position is not the same as passing to another elite guy in JT. Tavares points went up +4. Marners +25 and Tavares has a history of making players around him better. This is not a slight against Mitch. Mitch is Elite. Mitch and Tavares make eachother better.
Context is important. Facts are important. If there was no Salary cap, give Marner the sun and the moon.
The market, his team, the league. He aint worth Matthews Money