If Hall Wants Out

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Created by: NHLfan10506

Team: 2019-20 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2019

Published: Jul. 18, 2019

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This assumes........

1. Hall wants to play in Toronto
2. Hall is waiting on Marner to sign
3. If Marner does not sign (or gets dealt), Hall goes to UFA in order to sign next year with Leafs
(If Marner does sign extension with Leafs, Hall re-ups with NJD)

This trade is simplifies

(Also, both players share an agent)

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Butcher, Will	4	$4,200,000
Mueller, Mirco	1	$1,200,000
Zacha, Pavel	3	$2,400,000
Marner, Mitchell	8	$11,000,000

Trades

NJD

Marner, Mitchell [RFA Rights]

TOR

Hall, Taylor ($3,000,000 retained)

NJD

Marner

Plus swap of 1sts in 2020 or 2021

TOR

Hall

Buyouts

Mike Cammalleri: $1,666,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Taylor Hall: $3,000,000 (100%)

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$70,667,500	$0	$5,875,000	$10,832,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bratt, Jesper $749,167$749,167 ($42,500$42K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Hischier, Nico $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $11,000,000$11,000,000 RW UFA - 6
Wood, Miles $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 3	Zacha, Pavel $2,400,000$2,400,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Palmieri, Kyle $2,325,000$2,325,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Coleman, Blake $1,800,000$1,800,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Hughes, Jack $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C UFA - 3	Simmonds, Wayne $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Boqvist, Jesper $925,000$925,000 C, LW RFA - 3	Zajac, Travis $2,875,000$2,875,000 C NTC UFA - 2	Hayden, John $750,000$750,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Greene, Andy $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 1	Subban, P.K. $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Schneider, Cory $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NTC UFA - 3
Vatanen, Sami $2,437,500$2,437,500 LD/RD UFA - 1	Severson, Damon $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 4	Blackwood, Mackenzie $697,500$697,500 ($132,500$132K) G UFA - 1
	Carrick, Connor $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 2
Butcher, Will $4,200,000$4,200,000 LD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Mueller, Mirco $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 1
Rooney, Kevin $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1
Anderson, Joey $925,000$925,000 RW RFA - 1

Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:10 p.m.

SammyT_51

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Does it come with extension on Hall?

Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:11 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: SammyT_51

Does it come with extension on Hall?

Im sure Toronto say yes if it did and its less than 11

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:11 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Edited Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:17 p.m.

Quoting: SammyT_51

Does it come with extension on Hall?

Of course - this for 1 year would be loony toons

Edit: "this" meaning the Hall/Marner trade

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:14 p.m.

SammyT_51

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Quoting: csick

Im sure Toronto say yes if it did and its less than 11

Exactly. It would likely be in 10 range if it gets done now imo. Hall with Tavares? Oh boy..

Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:16 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Im sure Toronto say yes if it did and its less than 11

Am guessing ~$9.5 million AAV...maybe he would take discount to Skinner money ($9m x 8 years). Its no secret he wants to play in Toronto.

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:19 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Am guessing ~$9.5 million AAV...maybe he would take discount to Skinner money ($9m x 8 years). Its no secret he wants to play in Toronto.

10,750,000 x 8 years is what I think he gets now. On the open market hed get 12+ but with his injuries history, I wouldn't take that chance if im him, ill take the 10.75 now and also he wouldn't be able to sign with Toronto in free agency, this gives hi mthe chance

Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:23 p.m.

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I think NJD would have to add to the deal. The age gap is to big.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:25 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Not sure I follow, "he wouldn't be able to sign with Toronto in free agency". Are we talking about Hall? If he is dealt to Leafs with extension in place...that would be 9 years from now.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:31 p.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

I think NJD would have to add to the deal. The age gap is to big.

In 8 years, they will be 30 and 35 respectively.....Both elite talents but 35 getting less $$. So no big addition really needed. Maybe pick, lower tier prospect or Sammy Vats for 1-year if Toronto can make salary work. But nothing major.

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:34 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Not sure I follow, "he wouldn't be able to sign with Toronto in free agency". Are we talking about Hall? If he is dealt to Leafs with extension in place...that would be 9 years from now.

I meant if he wanted to go to Toronto in free agency, they dont have the cap to bring him in. SO, the only way to get to Toronto would be thru trade and Toronto wont do the trade without an extension so he would have to settle for less than Panarin and Karlsson

Jul. 18, 2019 at 3:41 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I agree with that I didn't mean NJD would have add lot and I probably should've qualified the with my post. But a pick or a middle of the road prospect like you said would be plenty.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Its no secret he wants to play in Toronto.

Not trying to be rude, but do you have a source for that. All I heard so far is he wants to be on a contender, which TOR is, but I haven't heard anyone say TOR specifically.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 8:22 p.m.

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Quoting: FireShero

Not trying to be rude, but do you have a source for that. All I heard so far is he wants to be on a contender, which TOR is, but I haven't heard anyone say TOR specifically.

No, he has not said...been mostly rumor ever since he came back from injury too early last season to face Leafs. He moved to Toronto area (Oakville, I think) last year. Is buddies with a few of the leafs, Taveras, etc. Works out there in Summer. Tweets about other TOR teams. Says things like, "if Hischier played in Toronto, he would won Calder". And so on. Just a long believed thing by people that follow him.

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