Marner Has Got To Go

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Hmmmm so last summer when Nylander held out everyone was hating on him and saying how Marner is so much better. Now it’s reversed. Leafs nation truly has one of a kind logic

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:36 p.m.

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Quoting: klondikebar

Hmmmm so last summer when Nylander held out everyone was hating on him and saying how Marner is so much better. Now it’s reversed. Leafs nation truly has one of a kind logic

Marner is a cap dump. Anyone willing to take that ludicrous 10.5 million dollar contract would make Kyle Dubas so grateful.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:37 p.m.

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Quoting: klondikebar

Hmmmm so last summer when Nylander held out everyone was hating on him and saying how Marner is so much better. Now it’s reversed. Leafs nation truly has one of a kind logic

Hey, don't you dare try bring logic, a valid argument or their own thoughts into this to use against them! Do you know who you are talking to?? That's a Toronto sports fan, peasant!!

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:39 p.m.

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But who replaces the 90+ points you just traded away (with a D & pick I might add) for nothing.

Just make a stupid trade and leave it at that with a 21 man roster even without Marner?

I just read the same damn thing in 3 different other threads and you just mashed it all together with no answer to the problem, your posts are just a b**** fit really.

The posts are no better off than the ludicrous Marner signings we see.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:43 p.m.

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Quoting: klondikebar

Hmmmm so last summer when Nylander held out everyone was hating on him and saying how Marner is so much better. Now it’s reversed. Leafs nation truly has one of a kind logic

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:46 p.m.

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Can we trade away @RahefIssaLeafsHockey to another website? PLEASE! He/she needs to go. he/she is below average level, who needs Corsi or metrics to carry him/her and drive her arguments. It's mind boggling for sure. just look at these stats;

https://imgur.com/dumbass/

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:49 p.m.

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Quoting: klondikebar

Hmmmm so last summer when Nylander held out everyone was hating on him and saying how Marner is so much better. Now it’s reversed. Leafs nation truly has one of a kind logic

You cannot call trolls on Capfriendly all fans. Marner is the better player but marginally. Its not even opinion anymore. It's fact backed up with every stat possible

Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:50 p.m.

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You cannot call trolls on Capfriendly all fans. Marner is the better player but marginally. Its not even opinion anymore. It's fact backed up with every stat possible

Literally no stats say Marner is better than Nylander bud. So far in their careers, Nylander’s Corsi for is 54% whereas Marner’s is only 40%. In fact, each star forward on the Leafs found more success playing with Nylander than with Marner. Kadri has a .86 G/60 playing with Nylander and .85 playing with Marner. Van Riemsdyk has a 1.33 G/60 playing with Nylander and 1.18 with Marner. Tavares has a 6.27 G/60 playing with Nylander and 1.53 with Marner. Matthews has a 1.53 G/60 with Nylander and a 1.04 with Marner. Just stop for a moment and take a look at Marner’s possession metrics and advanced stats: https://imgur.com/gallery/nVdJHWP
https://imgur.com/a/j04H3vO He literally gets carried by Tavares and is only effective when JT is holding his hand. Across the past 3 seasons at 5v5 in comparison to Marner, Nylander has a higher...
iCF60: 15.03 vs 14.44
iFF60: 11.33 vs 10.64
iSF60: 7.94 vs 7.37
ixG60: 0.78 vs 0.66
So literally the only A3Z metric that rates Marner higher than Nylander across the past 3 years is...nothing

Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:52 p.m.

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Something is valued in actually finishing and producing points. I agree it's Tavares that drives the line but Marner is very skilled

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:55 p.m.

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I know the Leafs get a lot of play on this site.....both Leaf fans and haters,

Sure we can discuss/argue the contract of Marner but it MLSE and Marner that will have to agree on contract or else Marner can sign elsewhere throughout the world.
But it just isn't Marner. What about the all the other good RFAs that have just come off their ELC....Point, Rantanen, Tzachuk, Connor, Laine, McAvoy and others that haven't signed. Yea, Marner might want to make Matthews/Nylander comparisons, but really most salary comparisons are made league wide not just one team, Leafs will argue 9.5 Kucherov and 8,45m Aho.
Sorry, even Leaf management won't be so disrespectful to Marner as to compare to Connor Sheary. So really a better argument is needed form the author of this post

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:57 p.m.

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Quoting: palhal

Sheary’s possession numbers aware from Crosby are better than Marner’s away from Tavares. 2 guys that get carried by elite centres.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:59 p.m.

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Quoting: RahefIssaLeafsHockey

Sheary’s possession numbers aware from Crosby are better than Marner’s away from Tavares. 2 guys that get carried by elite centres.

Lucky players are judged on hockey value not numbers....

Jul. 18, 2019 at 5:59 p.m.

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Mcdavid has more even strength goals just saying..

Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:00 p.m.

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Mcdavid has more even strength goals just saying..

That’s because McDavid played more games. Matthews at his best is better than a McDavid at his best.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:11 p.m.

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That’s because McDavid played more games. Matthews at his best is better than a McDavid at his best.

Please tell me you’re joking right.. Matthews hasn’t even been at a ppg in his career yet.. nvm trying over 100pts..

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:15 p.m.

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I think Dubus created this thread just to see the reaction of a Marner trade , probably should post it on Darren Farris forehead

Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:27 p.m.

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Hey, don't you dare try bring logic, a valid argument or their own thoughts into this to use against them! Do you know who you are talking to?? That's a Toronto sports fan, peasant!!

Funniest post I’ve seen in a while lmao

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:29 p.m.

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Lol do u think I’m a troll account?

Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:29 p.m.

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Please tell me you’re joking right.. Matthews hasn’t even been at a ppg in his career yet.. nvm trying over 100pts..

Matthews has better possession metrics and advanced stats. Plus the better all round player.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:30 p.m.

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Quoting: RahefIssaLeafsHockey

Hate to break it to ya but most of us do t know what half that crap means. The most important number is points, and Marner had 5x as many as points as Nylander

Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:30 p.m.

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Quoting: RahefIssaLeafsHockey

Matthews has better possession metrics and advanced stats. Plus the better all round player.

Matthews isn’t even a top 5 player in the league but go on.. little biased i see

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:32 p.m.

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Quoting: RahefIssaLeafsHockey

Matthews has better possession metrics and advanced stats. Plus the better all round player.

Don't even bother arguing it. Most people are only saying Marner is worth Matthews money because they're Leaf haters and think that every player is worth 3 million more than they actually are. Try trading Marner for any half decent player and watch as everyone says "Marner isn't worth that much"

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Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:35 p.m.

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Quoting: klondikebar

Hate to break it to ya but most of us do t know what half that crap means. The most important number is points, and Marner had 5x as many as points as Nylander

I disagree. In ice hockey, nothing beats advanced stats and possession metrics because they provide straight facts. I am someone who’s played competitive ice hockey for a decade, but even I know that. Factors such as the eye test and basic stats for example points per game are not an accurate way to assess talent and skill.

Jul. 18, 2019 at 6:38 p.m.

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Quoting: klondikebar

Hate to break it to ya but most of us do t know what half that crap means. The most important number is points, and Marner had 5x as many as points as Nylander

Actually no most of us do understand this. Its pretty basic. Point totals is not the best comparison when one player is buried on the 3rd line after sitting out 3 months and one player plays with a future hall of famer who has a history of inflating players numbers

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