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Big Change TOR trade

Created by: ItsBlowTime
Initial Creation Date: Jul 18, 2019
Published: Jul 18, 2019 at 10:12
Team: 2019-20 Vancouver Canucks
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell8$9,500,000
Trades
VAN
  1. Marner, Mitchell [RFA Rights]
TOR
  1. Boeser, Brock [RFA Rights]
  2. Sutter, Brandon
  3. Woo, Jett
  4. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Bear, Ethan
EDM
  1. Baertschi, Sven
Buyouts
  • Ryan Spooner: $1,033,333
Recapture Fees
  • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
ANA
2021
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2022
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,141,046$0$4,762,500$5,358,954
Left WingCenterRight Wing
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
$925,000
C
RFA - 2
Marner, Mitchell
$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 6
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
VAN
Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 4
VAN
Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 4
VAN
Leivo, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
VAN
Gaudette, Adam
$916,667
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
VAN
Eriksson, Loui
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Beagle, Jay
$3,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Motte, Tyler
$975,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
VAN
Schaller, Tim
$1,900,000
LW
UFA - 1
VAN
MacEwen, Zack
$847,500
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
VAN
Edler, Alexander
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
VAN
Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
VAN
Markström, Jacob
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1
VAN
Hughes, Quinn
$916,667
LD
RFA - 2
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
$4,450,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
$1,050,000
G
RFA - 2
VAN
Benn, Jordie
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
VAN
Stecher, Troy
$2,325,000
RD
UFA - 1
VAN
Fantenberg, Oscar
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
VAN
Roussel, Antoine
$3,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3

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Jul 18, 2019 at 10:14
#1
Stars and Bolts fan
Joined: Oct 2017
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That Marner contract...if he declined a $12,5Mx7 deal, why on earth would he take a $9,5x8...
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:15
#2
Joined: Nov 2018
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I doubt the Leafs would want Brandon Sutter as part of the return but it’s interesting either way.
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:20
#3
Your Fav Dman is Bad
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 314
Likes: 207
Quoting: dgfresh78
I doubt the Leafs would want Brandon Sutter as part of the return but it’s interesting either way.


Agreed, this is the first Marner trade that I've seen on here that makes at least some sense for both sides, but TOR doesn't want Sutter. Skeptical that he takes that money (gonna have to give him more), and VAN could possibly offer a little less, but overall not a bad take.
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:26
#4
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,234
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I think 2 firsts with boeser is too much
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:33
#5
GM - Avalanche
Joined: Dec 2016
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I think 2 firsts with boeser is too much


Disagree. Marner is a generational player and makes everyone he plays with have career stats whether in the NHL or junior hockey. Boeser is a one dimentional goal scorer only and does not know how to play defence.
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:34
#6
Joined: Nov 2018
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Quoting: rootferdukes
Agreed, this is the first Marner trade that I've seen on here that makes at least some sense for both sides, but TOR doesn't want Sutter. Skeptical that he takes that money (gonna have to give him more), and VAN could possibly offer a little less, but overall not a bad take.


Woo and Boeser alone carry a ton of value...I feel like those two and a 2020 first gets it done. It’s a very intriguing what if scenario nonetheless.
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Jul 18, 2019 at 10:36
#7
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,234
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Quoting: TMLSage
Disagree. Marner is a generational player and makes everyone he plays with have career stats whether in the NHL or junior hockey. Boeser is a one dimentional goal scorer only and does not know how to play defence.


Ok pal

Talking about junior hockey is like putting stuff from high school on your resume.

Who cares?
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Jul 18, 2019 at 10:48
#8
GM - Avalanche
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 5,027
Likes: 1,094
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Ok pal

Talking about junior hockey is like putting stuff from high school on your resume.

Who cares?


Do yourself a favour. Google Mitch Marner Awards Won with London Knights and then give your head a shake. Then name me one current player that has ever won the amount of trophies Marner won in his last year of junior hockey. If you ar still not a believer, then ask yourself why Tavares requested he play with Marner if he was to sign with the Leafs as a UFA.


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Ok pal

Talking about junior hockey is like putting stuff from high school on your resume.

Who cares?
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:49
#9
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 2,233
Likes: 1,842
Quoting: TMLSage
Disagree. Marner is a generational player and makes everyone he plays with have career stats whether in the NHL or junior hockey. Boeser is a one dimentional goal scorer only and does not know how to play defence.


Crosby is a generational talent. McDavid is a generational talent. Marner is not a generational talent, sorry to have to be the one to tell you.
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:51
#10
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,234
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Quoting: TMLSage
Do yourself a favour. Google Mitch Marner Awards Won with London Knights and then give your head a shake. Then name me one current player that has ever won the amount of trophies Marner won in his last year of junior hockey. If you ar still not a believer, then ask yourself why Tavares requested he play with Marner if he was to sign with the Leafs as a UFA.


No one cares
Jul 18, 2019 at 10:57
#11
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,764
Likes: 940
Quoting: TMLSage
Disagree. Marner is a generational player and makes everyone he plays with have career stats whether in the NHL or junior hockey. Boeser is a one dimentional goal scorer only and does not know how to play defence.


Then why don't TML fans on here think he's worth 11-12 mil a year????
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Jul 18, 2019 at 11:00
#12
LEAFSandBRUINSfan
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,492
Likes: 461
Quoting: Riley816
Then why don't TML fans on here think he's worth 11-12 mil a year????


He’s not a generational player. This guys just sniffing glue there’s better rfas out there right now than him
Jul 18, 2019 at 11:31
#13
Toronno Maple Leafs
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 662
Likes: 161
This is actually reasonable, think Leafs would want Tanev instead of Sutter. Nice idea tho. Marner will reject that contract.
Jul 18, 2019 at 11:33
#14
Pmwalker
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 944
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Quoting: JayTea
Crosby is a generational talent. McDavid is a generational talent. Marner is not a generational talent, sorry to have to be the one to tell you.


This. He’s not on that level. Excellent player but not a generational talent.
Jul 19, 2019 at 2:40
#15
Joined: Jun 2016
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Trade is solid if it ever got to that point.

But I can guarantee you if he'll take 9.5x8 then Dubas will just keep him.
Jul 19, 2019 at 12:28
#16
Thread Starter
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 488
Likes: 117
Not gonna lie I thought there would be way more TML fans bashing me. Glad to know you all have good hocket sense haha.

Couple points to make though

1: I included Sutter as a cap dump only. I see how that offsets the value, but if this trade were to go through in any capacity the Cauncks would have to shed salary somehow. Someone comented about LEafs wanting Tanev instead and I think GMJB would be completely fine with that.

2: A lot of that talk is about how Marner wouldn't sign for 9.5 and I get that the number is a bit low from what's expected, but do you guys think there will come a point that this whole process sullies the relationship between Marner & Dubas, and he would sign for less with a different team just to get this over with? Or do you think Marner is in it for the long haul and will take nothing less than 10+
 
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