The moves make no sense. Why sign Darling? He's terrible and the goalies for the Eagles are set already with Werner and Miska.

The Vegas trade is just horrible. If you are going to help out Vegas by taking Clarkson, you should get a much better return than a 2nd. And why give up Nieto?

And putting Cole and Clarkson on LTIR would do no good. We have the cap space for their contracts, so there would be no benefit.

Darling so that there is a legit #3 goalie who can be called up if there’s an injury. Don’t want to throw Werner to the wolves + Miska’s on an AHL deal.

Deal Nieto so Kamenev can play if he shows well.

Put Clarkson & Cole on Long Term Injury Reserve because... they’re... injured long term?

Hawk fan here:

there is only 1 year on clarksons deal left, a 2nd makes sense. not getting a first for that.

never hurts to have a cheap #3 goalie. you guys have so much cap space who cares.

GOd you guys have so much cap space. i hope you go balls to the wall at the deadline and load up. if Grubauer plays solid, idk what you are not the favourite for the cup.

Darling isn't a legit NHL goalie anymore. He is trash.

Kamanev can't fill in for what Nieto does. Nieto is a grinder and penalty killer. Kamanev is neither of those and if you put him in that role, you're going to get burned.

Putting people on LTIR when there is cap space for their contract is of no value. They would just be put on regular IR. If players were acquired later to get close to the cap, they would be placed on LTIR then. LTIR is for cap relief, not just because someone is out for an extended time.

Except that Vegas is in serious cap trouble. They have no choice but to move some people, and may have to pay more than they would like to do it. I wouldn't do them any favors for cheap.

He’s fine to be a backup incase of emergency jesus.

Kamenev kills penalties, nieto is replaceable

A 2nd rounder is a high price dude, especially because we don’t have one

Thank you

You have obviously not seen Darling play in the last couple of years.There's a reason no one has signed him. There are still a few teams that could use a decent back up goalie.

I didn't say Nieto wasn't replaceable, but he would need to be replaced by someone suited to fill his role. Greer would fill it better than Kamanev. I don't think we are better with Greer than with Nieto though. Kamanev is more of a second or third line player. The fourth line needs to be more defensive minded. If you want to make a move to get Kamanev minutes, trade Calvert instead and put Kamanev on the third line..

A Vegas 2nd rounder is probably going to be in the 50's. There's about a 50/50 shot of whoever is drafted there of ever playing an NHL game, That's not much of a return. Plus you retained part of Nieto's salary.

Darling would absolutely be fine as a #3 goalie.

PEB & Calvert are completely defensive minded and Kamenev has proven to be really solid defensively, Calvert is probably more defensive than Nieto. Idk what the argument is.

It’s just finding value. Avs are in a position to get value from Vegas by taking clarksons cap. Trade a 6th instead of Nieto, it doesn’t matter

So where are you going to play Darling? You don't carry three goalies. To keep him stashed with the Eagles, you would take development time from Werner. I would hope we don't have any goalie injuries early in the season. By the time we do have one, Werner should be fine as an emergency 3rd. They just signed Miska to the AHL deal so it's plain they are planning on him being the back up.

That was a brain fart on my part. I meant Colin Wilson instead of Calvert. Nieto-PEB-Calvert are the 4th line. They aren't going to score much, but they will kill penalties and shut down the other team. Putting Kamanev on the fourth line makes it worse because he is not as good at that job as the person he will replace at it. Kamanev has too much offensive ability to waste playing him in a totally defensive role. Either he needs to stay in the AHL and play a top six role and be ready to fill in on the big team in case of an injury to someone on the top 3 lines, or make a move that creates a spot on the top three lines for him. Having him up with the Avs to play on the 4th line does both him and the team a disservice.

I'm all about finding value, but that isn't enough value for me. Vegas has no leverage so they are going to have to overpay for any deals they make to clear space. I would be willing to take on Clarkson if it got us Gusev, or one of their decent prospects (maybe Nicolas Hague) and a 2nd. A second by itself is not enough.