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The return for Risto will underwhelm

Created by: littlejerryseinfeld
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 19, 2019
Published: Jul. 19, 2019
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Hard to see a fit after free agency/trade where the team has a need and space and something the Sabres need, have space for.
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  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus
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  1. 2020 6th round pick (STL)
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Wilson, Scott
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Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:11 p.m.
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Risto for Roslovic is a win for Buffalo
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:20 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Risto for Roslovic is a win for Buffalo


Roslovic is slightly better than Tage Thompson. Idk why people keep wanting to trade Risto for a guy who hasn't even shown he can play center at the NHL level. Plus taking on the contracts of Perrault and Kulikov. Would be a horrid trade for Buffalo.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
Roslovic is slightly better than Tage Thompson. Idk why people keep wanting to trade Risto for a guy who hasn't even shown he can play center at the NHL level.


He was supposed to be the #2C for Winnipeg last year but he didn't get the playing time he wanted. Also, him and Mittelstadt played together for USA, can pull some chemistry in
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:25 p.m.
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Honestly if we're gonna take a gamble on a guy who had a down year, I'd rather go for Sprong from ANA. We need goalscorers.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:37 p.m.
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He was supposed to be the #2C for Winnipeg last year but he didn't get the playing time he wanted. Also, him and Mittelstadt played together for USA, can pull some chemistry in


He just hasn't shown the ability to handle the 2C. The whole purpose of trading for a 2C was so we didn't have to put Mitts at 2C. Why would we trade for a young guy in the same position that he's in? A young player not ready to handle the 2C spot. Would rather have a stop gap like Stepan or Henrique than gambling on a younger guy's potential. We've tried that countless times and rarely pans out.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:40 p.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
Roslovic is slightly better than Tage Thompson. Idk why people keep wanting to trade Risto for a guy who hasn't even shown he can play center at the NHL level. Plus taking on the contracts of Perrault and Kulikov. Would be a horrid trade for Buffalo.


Perreault is actually good and the only way Winnipeg makes a trade for a guy with ristolainens salary is to move salary
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:40 p.m.
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Roslovic is slightly better than Tage Thompson. Idk why people keep wanting to trade Risto for a guy who hasn't even shown he can play center at the NHL level. Plus taking on the contracts of Perrault and Kulikov. Would be a horrid trade for Buffalo.


Just nonsense about Thompson
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:41 p.m.
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He just hasn't shown the ability to handle the 2C. The whole purpose of trading for a 2C was so we didn't have to put Mitts at 2C. Why would we trade for a young guy in the same position that he's in? A young player not ready to handle the 2C spot. Would rather have a stop gap like Stepan or Henrique than gambling on a younger guy's potential. We've tried that countless times and rarely pans out.


I didnt put him at 2C
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:41 p.m.
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Honestly if we're gonna take a gamble on a guy who had a down year, I'd rather go for Sprong from ANA. We need goalscorers.


Sprong is nothing
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:41 p.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
He just hasn't shown the ability to handle the 2C. The whole purpose of trading for a 2C was so we didn't have to put Mitts at 2C. Why would we trade for a young guy in the same position that he's in? A young player not ready to handle the 2C spot. Would rather have a stop gap like Stepan or Henrique than gambling on a younger guy's potential. We've tried that countless times and rarely pans out.


Risto wants out and we have too many RHD. Read the damn description
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:50 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I didnt put him at 2C


That's the position he plays. I know you put him there, but his value is his potential at center. He was pretty meh at winger.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:52 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Risto wants out and we have too many RHD. Read the damn description


Source on Risto wanting out? Just like ROR wanted out? We shouldn't make desperate moves just because we have too many RHD. Perrault and Kulikov would be the new Sobotka and Berglund. Botts not making that mistake again.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:55 p.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
Source on Risto wanting out? Just like ROR wanted out? We shouldn't make desperate moves just because we have too many RHD. Perrault and Kulikov would be the new Sobotka and Berglund. Botts not making that mistake again.


1.) Botterril essentially confirmed it when asked a few weeks ago.
2.) Oreilly is actually good, ristolainen isnt
3.) I bought out kulikov, once job paying attention
4.) Perreault is actually good
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.
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The return for Risto will underwhelm

He speaks the truth!
Jul. 19, 2019 at 3:58 p.m.
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Maybe Botterill can swoop in at the last minute and WIN THE LUCIC SWEEPSTAKES! laugh
Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:01 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
1.) Botterril essentially confirmed it when asked a few weeks ago.
2.) Oreilly is actually good, ristolainen isnt
3.) I bought out kulikov, once job paying attention
4.) Perreault is actually good


1. He confirmed what? He was getting calls on Risto? That's him demanding a trade lol?
2. He's a pp specialist with grit who averages 40 points a year. That has value in the league.
3. Ummm what happened with Berglund? He was essentially bought out.
4. Just like Berglund was a 25-35 point guy who could be our 2C?
Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:11 p.m.
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1. He confirmed what? He was getting calls on Risto? That's him demanding a trade lol?
2. He's a pp specialist with grit who averages 40 points a year. That has value in the league.
3. Ummm what happened with Berglund? He was essentially bought out.
4. Just like Berglund was a 25-35 point guy who could be our 2C?


The ristolainen situations in oreilly situation is not the same.

I laid out WHY the return would be underwhelming.

Botterill was asked if ristolainen asked for a trade and he couldn't answer. You been living under a rock?
Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:21 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
The ristolainen situations in oreilly situation is not the same.

I laid out WHY the return would be underwhelming.

Botterill was asked if ristolainen asked for a trade and he couldn't answer. You been living under a rock?


If the return is underwhelming we don't make the trade and keep him. That's why it's similar to the ROR move. Botts already traded a guy for a bad package when we should've kept him. Either we keep Risto or trade him for a top 6 guy. No point in settling for some cap dumps and gambling on young guys.

You have no evidence he demanded a trade other than your armchair psychology takes because Botts didn't answer a question.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
If the return is underwhelming we don't make the trade and keep him. That's why it's similar to the ROR move. Botts already traded a guy for a bad package when we should've kept him. Either we keep Risto or trade him for a top 6 guy. No point in settling for some cap dumps and gambling on young guys.

You have no evidence he demanded a trade other than your armchair psychology takes because Botts didn't answer a question.


Ok pal. laugh
Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:30 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Ok pal. laugh


Yep what I thought.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
Yep what I thought.


No point to continuing this if we disagree on the value and talent of the players involved. We disagree. You are free to be wrong
Jul. 19, 2019 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
No point to continuing this if we disagree on the value and talent of the players involved. We disagree. You are free to be wrong


You haven't given a solid argument for anything you've said. Just that you think that Risto might've requested a trade.
Jul. 19, 2019 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: ReggieMoats23
You haven't given a solid argument for anything you've said. Just that you think that Risto might've requested a trade.


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