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after fatal trade

Created by: calgaryman
Initial Creation Date: Jul 20, 2019
Published: Jul 20, 2019 at 1:48 pm
Team: 2019-20 Calgary Flames
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mangiapane, Andrew1$800,000
Rittich, David1$1,800,000
Bennett, Sam1$2,500,000
Tkachuk, Matthew6$8,500,000
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
  • Michael Stone: $1,166,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2021
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2022
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,308,375$0$747,500$191,625
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
CGY
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
UFA - 4
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$8,500,000
LW
RFA - 3
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
CGY
Frolík, Michael
$4,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
CGY
Jankowski, Mark
$1,675,000
C
RFA - 1
CGY
Bennett, Sam
$2,500,000
RW, C, LW
RFA - 2
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
CGY
Ryan, Derek
$3,125,000
C
UFA - 2
CGY
Czarnik, Austin
$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
CGY
Dubé, Dillon
$778,333
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Giordano, Mark
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
CGY
Brodie, TJ
$4,650,400
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
CGY
Talbot, Cam
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 5
CGY
Hamonic, Travis
$3,857,143
RD
UFA - 1
CGY
Rittich, David
$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
CGY
Välimäki, Juuso
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
$755,833
RD
UFA - 1
CGY
Kylington, Oliver
$730,833
LD
RFA - 1

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Jul 20, 2019 at 1:54
#1
Hugh Hefner of CF
Joined: May 2018
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Gave Rittich too little and same with Mangiapane.
And gave a little too much to Tkachuk.
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Jul 20, 2019 at 2:09
#2
Joined: Apr 2018
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I don't see a way Rittich signs for less than Talbot
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Jul 20, 2019 at 2:14
#3
Lucic Apologist
Joined: Feb 2018
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Come off the ledge. Calgary is just fine, they swapped third liners and got a guy that fills a third line role better than Neal was going to.
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Jul 20, 2019 at 2:15
#4
BootBoi
Joined: Jul 2017
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Flames better watch out 4 rich Sens regarding Matthew.
M.Tkacuk is the best sheet target remaining.
Jul 20, 2019 at 2:34
#5
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Come off the ledge. Calgary is just fine, they swapped third liners and got a guy that fills a third line role better than Neal was going to.


If I'm not mistaken, the whole world said that Lucic isn't NHL worthy anymore. Just funny to me that Flames fans now try to make it seem like they traded a 3rd liner for a 3rd liner. Before this trade every one on Flames Nation plus fans of other teams called Lucic a bum. Now that he's on your team, he's all the sudden NHL caliber lol

On a side note, I think he will fit better on your team than Neal though, but just be realistic.. 2 months ago everyone didn't see him as an NHL player.
Jul 20, 2019 at 2:47
#6
Lucic Apologist
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 479
Quoting: ConnorsCousin
If I'm not mistaken, the whole world said that Lucic isn't NHL worthy anymore. Just funny to me that Flames fans now try to make it seem like they traded a 3rd liner for a 3rd liner. Before this trade every one on Flames Nation plus fans of other teams called Lucic a bum. Now that he's on your team, he's all the sudden NHL caliber lol

On a side note, I think he will fit better on your team than Neal though, but just be realistic.. 2 months ago everyone didn't see him as an NHL player.


I don't disregard that at all, no one has really changed their mind on that I don't think. For the Flames it is a 3rd line swap, Neal would have been on our third line next year and Lucic will be this year, I personally see it as a better fit, are there better options, absolutely, I would have paid a pretty penny to have that be Kassian for Neal++. There have just been so many Flames fans that have jumped on the fire Treliving bandwagon which is absolutely mental. In terms of an on ice product the Flames have not improved or gotten worse, In terms of a contract there are smarter people than myself that looked into that and made that call.
Jul 20, 2019 at 10:44
#7
Lucic Apologist
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 479
Quoting: BootBoi
Flames better watch out 4 rich Sens regarding Matthew.
M.Tkacuk is the best sheet target remaining.


Flames are one Frolik or Brodie trade away from being able to pay Tkachuk whatever he wants. Flames reduced their cap hit by half a million.. why weren’t you posting this before the Lucic trade?
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Jul 22, 2019 at 1:29
#8
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 155
Likes: 24
Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Come off the ledge. Calgary is just fine, they swapped third liners and got a guy that fills a third line role better than Neal was going to.


Ha, I wouldnt say that....Id so much rather have Neal than Lucic on my team. Especially seeing how seriously Neal is taking his offseason
Jul 22, 2019 at 2:02
#9
Lucic Apologist
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 479
Quoting: Savard96
Ha, I wouldnt say that....Id so much rather have Neal than Lucic on my team. Especially seeing how seriously Neal is taking his offseason


You don’t know what you’re saying then. Neal will push for top 6 in Edmonton our pout and be awful again in Calgary. There isn’t a spot for Neal in Calgary that would make all parties happy that was evident in the playoffs. Troy Brouwer also took off seasons seriously.. along with every other aging NHL player that wants to stay relevant, that’s a horrid argument.
Jul 22, 2019 at 2:23
#10
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 155
Likes: 24
Quoting: SmugTkachuk
You don’t know what you’re saying then. Neal will push for top 6 in Edmonton our pout and be awful again in Calgary. There isn’t a spot for Neal in Calgary that would make all parties happy that was evident in the playoffs. Troy Brouwer also took off seasons seriously.. along with every other aging NHL player that wants to stay relevant, that’s a horrid argument.


Im not basing my argument completely off of that.... theyre both washed up players (Not even old players because theyre 31) who have significantly dropped off their play in the last couple years. But pushing top 6 in edmonton isnt saying anything, id say thats a pretty horrid argument.
Jul 22, 2019 at 3:03
#11
Lucic Apologist
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 479
Quoting: Savard96
Im not basing my argument completely off of that.... theyre both washed up players (Not even old players because theyre 31) who have significantly dropped off their play in the last couple years. But pushing top 6 in edmonton isnt saying anything, id say thats a pretty horrid argument.


You didn’t even make a point in that last reply.. Lucic fits better in Calgary, Neal would have been the equivalent because there isn’t a spot in the top six where he wants to play. That’s why to my original point, they swapped third liners and Lucic will fill that role better than Neal would have.
Jul 22, 2019 at 3:25
#12
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 155
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
You didn’t even make a point in that last reply.. Lucic fits better in Calgary, Neal would have been the equivalent because there isn’t a spot in the top six where he wants to play. That’s why to my original point, they swapped third liners and Lucic will fill that role better than Neal would have.


I didnt feel the need to explain myself when all you said is basically "lucic is better than neal" even though few people would agree with that. I guess if youd want to have alittle harder hitting forward who could be used to throw the body around then ya...lucic is your guy. But youd probably be using him with Bennett and Jankowski...in that case, id prefer to have Neal because hes better offensively
Jul 22, 2019 at 3:47
#13
Lucic Apologist
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 479
Quoting: Savard96
I didnt feel the need to explain myself when all you said is basically "lucic is better than neal" even though few people would agree with that. I guess if youd want to have alittle harder hitting forward who could be used to throw the body around then ya...lucic is your guy. But youd probably be using him with Bennett and Jankowski...in that case, id prefer to have Neal because hes better offensively


At no point did I say he was better than Neal. Neal literally played the majority of the year last year with Bennett and Jankowski and we saw the results of that. Ideally Lucic Dube and Bennett are a line that bangs and crashes and scores garbage goals off of Dube’s puck moving ability and possession. You clearly haven’t read or thought about anything and you’re putting out arguments for arguments sake.
Oct 23, 2019 at 7:04
#14
Joined: Apr 2019
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
You didn’t even make a point in that last reply.. Lucic fits better in Calgary, Neal would have been the equivalent because there isn’t a spot in the top six where he wants to play. That’s why to my original point, they swapped third liners and Lucic will fill that role better than Neal would have.


Yo remember when you were completely wrong....clown
Oct 23, 2019 at 11:58
#15
Lucic Apologist
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 479
Quoting: Savard96
Yo remember when you were completely wrong....clown


Hahahahahaha remember when you thought about something from three months ago on a website that means nothing!! Holy crap, find a hobby pal!

Either way, the point I made there still stands, Calgary made a swap of third liners, it's exactly where Neal would have played in Calgary and there is a 0% chance Neal would be on the tear he is right now if he stayed ion Calgary. Lucic has fit better in Calgary already than Neal moping around the ice last year. If you want to talk about clowning, you literally brought up a point from three months ago that still absolutely stands.
Points I made above, to make this extremely clear for your dense little head:
- Lucic fits better in Calgary, check
- There is no spot for Neal in Calgary's top six, check
- Calgary made a swap of player on their third line, check

Talk to you again in three months when you continually think about me!
 
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