Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
Right, but if the Leafs don't value Marner as an 11.5m guy, which clearly they don't since they wont' sign him for that amount, then they can't expect to get a haul like the OP put in the trade in return for him. Severson and Palmieri are key pieces for NJ. Severson is their #3 or #4 D-man and Palmieri is a second line player who put up 49 points for them last year.
Leafs fans can't have it both ways... either Marner is worth 10.5-11.5m as one of the top wingers in the game, or he isn't... clearly the Leafs don't view him as such and any trade return should reflect that.
Yes and no. Here you have the offer sheet threat and the knowledge that it would take an offer north of 10.5 for the Leafs not to match and take the four 1sts instead. No team really wants to give up 4 1sts and every team has to move salary to bring in a play making 8 figures so the reality then becomes, which players make it work and NJ doesn't have a lot to offer which is why this particular proposal makes some sense.
The reality is that with the addition of Barrie, Severson isn't what the Leafs need...similar to NJ adding Subban. Severson's role will diminish and he's an offense only guy to begin with.
Palmieri puts up decent numbers and would be good on Tavares' left wing but the rest of the trade is mediocre compared to 4 1sts.
The Leafs don't care about an offer sheet but would be glad for one simply for closure one way or the other. I think if a Marner trade were to come about instead of an offer sheet, the Leafs would want a great prospect, a good D and/or winger, and some picks.
If Marner is the player NJ was after and they wouldn't offer this deal, there really isn't a reason for them to talk trade because they have nothing else. They have to give to get.