Quoting: LoganOllivier
Okay our demeaning and childish remarks aside, you are actually comparing Nylander's contract to the signing of David Backes. Need I say more.
I am a fan of intelligence, young talented players tend to get better through their careers, especially as they approach the age of 24 which none of Nylander or Matthews has done yet. But of course that reality doesn't play well into your rhetoric of doom and gloom because that's all you like to throw around in regards to TO. Its the new age man, stars get paid big bucks, depth guys get pinched and its only going to happen more. "Buying up FA years" is just a media trope that isn't really the correct way of looking at demanding shorter term.
Lets take Pastrnak for example, do you think he isn't wishing he would have went for shorter term? Not so he can get to FA and just leave. That's the answer of drama seekers. The reason you ask for shorter term is to maximize earning potential. Its getting more and more clear that giving huge contracts to guys around 28-29 years old is a recipe for disaster, you are paying for their most productive years as they enter the twilight of their careers. Corey Perry anyone? Your opinions will of course be jaded by Bergeron who is one of a small group of players that seems to have found the fountain of youth but he'll decline eventually, everyone does. Its a young mans league, the young stars are driving the ships and they want to get paid to do so. They also want to make sure their contracts are always near market value, and you can only do that if you keep adjusting with the market. Look at McKinnon, do you think he wishes he would have done a short term deal after his ELC? Absolutely he does. Same with Schiefele.
Just because these guys signed during a different market doesn't mean their GM's are amazing and better than Dubas, it just means they were operating in a different time. Aho just signed for 8.5, Rantanen, Point, Tkachuk etc, these guys are all going to get paid premium dollars because the market is changing. I bet you McDavid and Eichel both wish they would have went shorter term. Why? Because when those guys are 29/30 and looking for their next contract they won't be able to demand both term and big dollars. Its not going to take long for the Doughty Contract to look terrible, same with Karlsson. Those guys will be on the decline and chewing up massive amounts of cap space.
Its not my fault fans like you can't understand where things are going and just love pining for the good old days.
you make a lot of assumptions. Most are inaccurate.
Let's start at the top. I never compared the contract of Nylander to Backes. Not even close. I did compare your expectation (note, you didn't say hope, you didn't say you could see it, you didn't say that he has the tools to do it, you said it's your expectation) for Nylander's production with my phony expectations for Backes production, with a healthy dose of hyperbole to prove a point. Running around here talking like Nylander is a proven hart candidate is just a little crazy.
So, you say that you're a fan of intelligence, but you're coming off as a yahoo homer. you kinda sound like jack edwards talking about a prospect.
Yahoo way of saying it: 7 million is sick! The player lost and the franchise won! I fully expect him to have 30+ goal seasons and 90+ point seasons!
intelligent way of saying it: I think he has the tools to put up some improved numbers in the future. Given more ice time, based on what I've seen, it really wouldn't surprise me if he had 90+ point seasons if he's put in the right situation.
I disagree with both, but one is totally valid and pretty much criticism proof.
Then you assume that for some reason I don't understand why players want shorter term deals bringing them to UFA. I really can't imagine why you would assume that, it's pretty simple. That said, most of the time when a player signs such a deal of 5 or 6 years, they sacrifice something for getting player friendly term, and that's AAV. Tavares, Seguin, Jones, Pastrnak, we could go on and on to basically every RFA that took a 5 or 6 year deal off their entry, they all clearly sacrificed the AAV they would have gotten on an 8 year deal to hit UFA sooner. Everyone except for Matthews, and Nylander.