Quoting: hanson493
shocked. borgman actually looks like a good prospect. here is your 7th or 8th dman though to fill in for dermott early toronto.
Quoting: bhavikp27
Borgman is coming off a great year in AHL; Schmaltz's upside is going down. Borgman is also waivers exempt.
Quoting: krakowitz
I thought Borgman had a pretty good shot at making the team this year in a third pairing role, especially after the Leafs moved Rosen. Schmaltz seems to be pretty much done at this point, so I don't see a lot of reason to make this move if you're Toronto.
Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Schmaltz brings Stanley Cup leadership to the team.
*sarcasm*
Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
Uh... I guess
Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Thank You Toronto. I will take a Top 4/Top 6 upside Defenseman for a guy who passed through waivers last year anyday.
Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
LMAO. Schmaltz passed through Waivers last year. He wouldn't even be close.
Quoting: Rooney
Only reason I think TOR considered this was they had a plethora of fringe LHD and Schmaltz was RHD? I could be wrong but yeah I don't know why TOR makes this trade...
Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
Huge L for Toronto
Quoting: palhal
Dubas thought he was trading for a "European", Pietrangelo and Parayko sound Southern European. Unfortunately there was a switcharoo and the Leafs got the mid European Schmaltz.
Really I don't both are NHLers but good luck to both guys.
Quoting: Random2152
Umm, whoever told you borg had top 4 upside lied. He might be a 6-7 if he can stay healthy (which he was a while ago for the leafs)
Quoting: Caniac2000
MapLe Leafs be earning them L's out here. Borgman's upside is better than anything Schmaltz can dream of
Quoting: mondo
not a big fan of this trade. would think there are better options for a rhd.
Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
I guess Dubas is trying the get something from nothing, both Rosen and Borgman were undrafted UFA Euros and after they passed the Marlies test they traded both away for NHL proven players.
Quoting: mondo
borgman has more nhl games than schmaltz
OK someone needs to fill me in on why Schmaltz is horrendous and Borgman is amazing ... I honestly don't know whats up here.
- Borgman is 24 and Schmaltz is 25
- Borgman has 11 NHL points and Schmaltz has 5
- They have both played around 45 NHL games
But their AHL numbers tell a different story:
Schmaltz = 188 GP - 98 PTS -
0.52 Points Per Game
Borgman = 85 GP - 28 PTS -
0.33 Points Per Game
Why is Schmaltz a plug and Borgman a potential top 4 defender?
What am I missing?