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Created by: Ichbinian

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2019

Published: Jul. 26, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Someone explain this to me.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell		6	$11,000,000

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$82,972,199	$0	$0	-$1,472,199

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell $11,000,000$11,000,000 RW UFA - 6
Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Petan, Nicolas $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Agostino, Kenny $737,500$737,500 LW UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1	Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1	Hutchinson, Michael $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1
	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1
Harpur, Ben $725,000$725,000 LD UFA - 1	Schmaltz, Jordan $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
	Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:25 p.m.

Random2152

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Don't overpay Marner by 1.5-2 million dollars?

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Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:29 p.m.

TheChief

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Quoting: Random2152

Don't overpay Marner by 1.5-2 million dollars?

And if he doesn't take anything else but that?

For what's been rumored, that's also a discount.

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:30 p.m.

Canadian_Rednek

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Quoting: TheChief

And if he doesn't take anything else but that?

For what's been rumored, that's also a discount.

that's why you dont listen to rumours

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:31 p.m.

NJD74

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Quoting: Random2152

Don't overpay Marner by 1.5-2 million dollars?

Quoting: Canadian_Rednek

that's why you dont listen to rumours

11 million isn't an overpayment for Marner at all.

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:33 p.m.

Canadian_Rednek

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Quoting: NJD74

11 million isn't an overpayment for Marner at all.

at 6 years it's a huge over payment. 2 wingers in the league make move than 10 million and both cover mostly UFA years and 6 years covers 1 for Marner...

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:34 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: TheChief

And if he doesn't take anything else but that?

Then the Leafs have lots of cap space. No other team offers an 11m offersheet, If Leafs and Marner don't budge, (and neither side has to), Marner plays for free in a beer league.

It's kinda of a silly statement "if he doesn't take anything else but that." Then it just might be ZERO dollars.

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Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:35 p.m.

Random2152

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Quoting: NJD74

11 million isn't an overpayment for Marner at all.

Yes it is lol. It is a massive overpayment. Fair would be ~6@8.75-9.00 +/- 500k

Quoting: TheChief

And if he doesn't take anything else but that?

For what's been rumored, that's also a discount.

He wants to play in the NHL right? If he does then he needs to find someone to pay him, and no one is going to cave to his outrageous demands.

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.

Shanacockoriello

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11M AAV is only acceptable on 7-8yr term deals. if that's what Mitch is looking for he can accept an offer sheet and we'll take our quartet of 1st round picks and offer sheet Provorov/McAvoy/Tkachuk/Connor. However I don't see it coming to that, I expect Mitch and TOR to reach a solution on a bridge deal at ~6.75M AAV on a 2 year deal or ~8M on a 3 year deal.

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:55 p.m.

TheChief

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Quoting: Random2152

He wants to play in the NHL right? If he does then he needs to find someone to pay him, and no one is going to cave to his outrageous demands.

Somehow I doubt it.

Jul. 26, 2019 at 12:57 p.m.

#10

BCAPP

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Quoting: NJD74

11 million isn't an overpayment for Marner at all.

Quoting: TheChief

And if he doesn't take anything else but that?

For what's been rumored, that's also a discount.

It's a very large overpayment.

Reminder to everyone the largest every contract awarded to a winger coming off their ELC in this CBA is Tarasenko's 7.5 million x 8 years.

That year was actually really similar to Marner's (significantly more goals, significantly less points, but points relative to league leaders were similar as scoring is way up this year). AND marner plays with a stud in Tavares. Tarasenko didn't have that.

This idea that RFA wingers off ELCs will make huge money is purely hypothetical. It's literally never happened

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Jul. 26, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.

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Random2152

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Quoting: TheChief

Somehow I doubt it.

Considering that no OS has materialised there is no reason to cave for Dubas. We have made moves to allow us the flexibility to go through another holdout (the Clarkson trade was pure cap brilliance) and signing a bunch of depth guys to fill in if he is gone.

I think ultimately they will bridge Marner for 3 years and it will get solved around camp as he has no leverage anymore and wants to prove himself.

Jul. 26, 2019 at 1:31 p.m.

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Canadian_Rednek

at 6 years it's a huge over payment. 2 wingers in the league make move than 10 million and both cover mostly UFA years and 6 years covers 1 for Marner...

Wouldn't a 6 year deal be buying two of Marners ufa years? Thought it was 3 years for an ELC and 4 years of RFA

Jul. 26, 2019 at 3:44 p.m.

#13

BCAPP

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Wouldn't a 6 year deal be buying two of Marners ufa years? Thought it was 3 years for an ELC and 4 years of RFA

Yes it would cover 2 UFA years.

27 or 7 years of contracts. ELC of 3 years, 4 more years=7 years. You are correct.

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