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New York Rangers signed Pavel Buchnevich (2 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)

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Jul 26 at 8:49
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Pavel Buchnevich has signed a new contract with the New York Rangers.
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LENGTH: 2 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: RFA
SIGNING TEAM: New York RangersNew York Rangers
VALUE: $6,500,000
C.H.% : 3.99
SIGNING DATE: July 26, 2019
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2019-20$3,250,000$3,250,000$0$500,000$2,500,000$3,000,000$3,000,000
2020-21$3,250,000$3,250,000$0$500,000$3,000,000$3,500,000$3,500,000
TOTAL$6,500,000$6,500,000$0$1,000,000$5,500,000$6,500,000$6,500,000
Jul 26 at 8:51
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This guy👇👇👇👇
Jul 26 at 9:00
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rangersandislesfan
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So, no buyout ... we're making a trade. Confirmed.
Jul 26 at 9:05
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Ragsandboltsfan
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
So, no buyout ... we're making a trade. Confirmed.


Actually this opens a 2nd buyout window
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Jul 26 at 9:24
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OldNYIfan
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Up, up, and away . . . and everybody thought that Toronto had cap problems. And then Las Vegas.

Four million plus over and still Lemieux and De Angelo to sign. One trade ain't gonna do it, unless they move Shattenkirk with virtually nothing coming back.
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Jul 26 at 9:33
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Up, up, and away . . . and everybody thought that Toronto had cap problems. And then Las Vegas.

Four million plus over and still Lemieux and De Angelo to sign. One trade ain't gonna do it, unless they move Shattenkirk with virtually nothing coming back.


Tough this year and next but it opens up quite nicely after that...
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Jul 26 at 9:40
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How did the Rangers pull off this voodoo magic
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Jul 26 at 9:48
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
How did the Rangers pull off this voodoo magic


Jeff Godton
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Jul 26 at 10:05
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Actually this opens a 2nd buyout window


How?
Jul 26 at 10:12
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
How?


When you have players that file for arbitration, after you either sign them to and extension or settle at the hearing your allowed a 2nd 48 hour buy out period...
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Jul 26 at 10:15
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Quoting: buchiegang
When you have players that file for arbitration, after you either sign them to and extension or settle at the hearing your allowed a 2nd 48 hour buy out period...


Oh, okay, i thought it was only players who go to arbitration.
Jul 26 at 10:17
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Quoting: buchiegang
When you have players that file for arbitration, after you either sign them to and extension or settle at the hearing your allowed a 2nd 48 hour buy out period...


So, does the buyout period start right away?
Jul 26 at 10:27
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
So, does the buyout period start right away?


Not sure about that. Everyone’s saying Monday to Wednesday but I don’t know how that’s figured...
Jul 26 at 11:39
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Incoming Brendan Smith buyout.
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Jul 26 at 11:55
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
So, does the buyout period start right away?


Quoting: buchiegang
Not sure about that. Everyone’s saying Monday to Wednesday but I don’t know how that’s figured...




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Jul 27 at 12:04
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Edited Jul 27 at 12:09
Quoting: buchiegang
Tough this year and next but it opens up quite nicely after that...


That's why I think they should have signed him to one of the following deals:

$3,500,000 x 4 years = 28 at expiry (same as the Kerfoot Contract)
$4,000,000 x 5 years = 29 at expiry
$4,500,000 x 6 years = 30 at expiry

New York probably won't be a contender this year or next ... but they're likely to be one in years 3-6.

- If Buchnevich has a breakout year in either of the next 2 seasons (fairly likely) ... his cap-hit will jump from $3,250,000 to $7,000,000+
- This will eat up a big chunk of their newly freed up cap-space right when New York's window of contention opens
- They'll need this cap-space for guys like Zibanejad, Kakko Fox, Howden, Andersson, Chytil, Kravstov, Hajek, Goergiev, etc
- They'll also need to sign a few UFA's to round out the roster in a couple years (ex: Shattenkirk, Stall and Smith replacements)

The extra $250,000 - $1,250,000 would make it harder for NY to navigate this year ... but it would be more than worth it in years 3-6 when they're contending.

I made this exact same comment after Max Domi signed in Montreal (when everyone was praising Bergevin for the low AAV bridge deal).

- Montreal wasn't a contender last year and they won't be one this year
- They had plenty of cap space to lock Domi up for 4-7 years
- Domi was coming off a 45 point season (similar to Buchnevich)
- A long-term deal would only cost around $4,500,000 at that point

Now Domi will probably cost $7,500,000 - $9,000,000 on a long-term deal ...
Right when their cup window opens and all their best players + prospects need raises.
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Jul 27 at 12:07
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Quoting: Banks




Thanks. Interesting about Washington. Not sure who they'd buy out though.
Jul 27 at 12:07
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Quoting: EthanK24
Incoming Brendan Smith buyout.

Or Staal or Shattenkirk.
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Jul 27 at 12:09
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I don't think it'll be Staal. Smith or Shattenkirk though.
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Jul 27 at 12:33
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Up, up, and away . . . and everybody thought that Toronto had cap problems. And then Las Vegas.

Four million plus over and still Lemieux and De Angelo to sign. One trade ain't gonna do it, unless they move Shattenkirk with virtually nothing coming back.


Moving Shattenkirk will actually cost the Rangers. Probably at least a 1st rounder. Nobody is gonna ever take on his contract w/o serious additional comp. They need to figure out a way to dump him and Smith. If that's not sufficient, they'll need to trade Tony D or Namestnikov.
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Jul 27 at 12:36
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I don't think it'll be Staal. Smith or Shattenkirk though.


Staal is safe, in my opinion. Sgattenkirk is probably gonna veto a trade. Smith is gone-one way or the other.
Jul 27 at 12:46
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Buying out Shattenkirk is ugly. They'd save big the 1st year but get absolutely crushed the following season. He's gonna have to agree to a trade or else he's not gonna waive his NTC. I'm thinking their gonna trade Namestnikov and buyout Smith. A lot depends on how much Tony D signs for. Is he $3.5M+???
Jul 27 at 12:50
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Up, up, and away . . . and everybody thought that Toronto had cap problems. And then Las Vegas.

Four million plus over and still Lemieux and De Angelo to sign. One trade ain't gonna do it, unless they move Shattenkirk with virtually nothing coming back.


Tony D could be $4M AAV alone and Lemieux has to be around $1.25M??? Maybe Skjei will get traded. I know they'd love to keep all their young D's but it's gonna be tough since the old guys don't have much trade value.
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Jul 27 at 4:29
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Quoting: drewjenks
That's why I think they should have signed him to one of the following deals:

$3,500,000 x 4 years = 28 at expiry (same as the Kerfoot Contract)
$4,000,000 x 5 years = 29 at expiry
$4,500,000 x 6 years = 30 at expiry

New York probably won't be a contender this year or next ... but they're likely to be one in years 3-6.

- If Buchnevich has a breakout year in either of the next 2 seasons (fairly likely) ... his cap-hit will jump from $3,250,000 to $7,000,000+
- This will eat up a big chunk of their newly freed up cap-space right when New York's window of contention opens
- They'll need this cap-space for guys like Zibanejad, Kakko Fox, Howden, Andersson, Chytil, Kravstov, Hajek, Goergiev, etc
- They'll also need to sign a few UFA's to round out the roster in a couple years (ex: Shattenkirk, Stall and Smith replacements)

The extra $250,000 - $1,250,000 would make it harder for NY to navigate this year ... but it would be more than worth it in years 3-6 when they're contending.

I made this exact same comment after Max Domi signed in Montreal (when everyone was praising Bergevin for the low AAV bridge deal).

- Montreal wasn't a contender last year and they won't be one this year
- They had plenty of cap space to lock Domi up for 4-7 years
- Domi was coming off a 45 point season (similar to Buchnevich)
- A long-term deal would only cost around $4,500,000 at that point

Now Domi will probably cost $7,500,000 - $9,000,000 on a long-term deal ...
Right when their cup window opens and all their best players + prospects need raises.


I think you're right about the term and the $$, but at least he'll be the only key FA after the 2020-21 season and he'll still be restricted. I think the strategy was a short term fix that allows the Rangers to save cap space in the short term until they decide what to do w/ their problem contracts. Once they dump Shattenkirk and Smith, and Staal becomes UFA things should open up a little. The problem you suggest is that Buchnevich could break out next season and become a $6M player in 2 years. That'll be very problematic, just like Domi will be next summer.

What can the Rangers do to solve their cap issues for next season? A lot of media have suggested trading Kreider as he's a pending UFA, but he's very valuable and could score 30-35G next season w/ Panarin in the top six and on the PP. However, I doubt they'll be able to keep Kreider after next season, especially if he has a big season. No chance they can pay him $7M+. I would actually trade Tony D and/or Namestmikov and dump Smith. If they can possibly keep Tony D, they'd do it but the numbers don't really add up. A lot will depend on whether or not they feel they can contend immediately. They can always move Kreider at the deadline if they're out of the playoff picture.
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Jul 27 at 4:40
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Quoting: drewjenks

- They'll also need to sign a few UFA's to round out the roster in a couple years (ex: Shattenkirk, Stall and Smith replacements)



it's the other way around - these expiring are the reason they cant give him a long term deal just yet. in order to sign everyone, these will have to be replaced from within the farm system for the bottm 2-3 roles, which doesnt look unrealistic at the moment
 
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