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Deal Or No Deal - NYR Edition

Created by: drewjenks
Initial Creation Date: Jul 27, 2019
Published: Jul 27 at 8:43 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Robertson, Nicholas3$795,000
Kokkonen, Mikko3$795,000
Dzierkals, Martins2$795,000
Greenway, James3$795,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell6$9,000,000
Deangelo, Anthony3$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Neuvirth, Michal2$700,000
Brassard, Derick1$725,000
Lovejoy, Ben1$925,000
Hutton, Ben1$925,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Deangelo, Anthony [RFA Rights]
  2. Buchnevich, Pavel ($250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Outgoing Cap Hit = $6,000,000 +/-
Incoming Cap Hit = $3,100,000
NET CAP SAVINGS = $2,900,000
NYR
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Hyman, Zach
  3. Korshkov, Yegor
  4. Dzierkals, Martins
  5. Greenway, James
TOR
  1. 2020 5th round pick (DET)
  2. 2020 6th round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  3. O'Connell, Ryan [Reserve List]
TOR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2020 5th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Petan, Nicolas
  2. Timashov, Dmytro
  3. Kara, Vladislav [Reserve List]
TOR
  1. 2020 4th round pick (VAN)
  2. 2020 5th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Räsänen, Eemeli [Reserve List]
  2. Chebykin, Nikolai [Reserve List]
  3. Bobylev, Vladimir [Reserve List]
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
EDM
TOR
VGK
VAN
DET
EDM
VAN
TOR
CAR
COL
DET
EDM
STL
WPG
SJS
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,391,366$0$400,000$2,108,634

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$3,000,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$9,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Agostino, Kenny
$737,500
LW
UFA - 2
Brassard, Derick
$725,000
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Deangelo, Anthony
$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 1
TOR
Neuvirth, Michal
$700,000
G
UFA
Hutton, Ben
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Lovejoy, Ben
$925,000
RD
UFA
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Matthews, A.
Tavares, J.
Nylander, W.
Rielly, M.
Marner, M.
Power Play 2
Johnsson, A.
Kerfoot, A.
Kapanen, K.
Buchnevich, P.
Barrie, T.

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Jul 27 at 8:44
#1
Lucas Raymond to NYR
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hell no
Jul 27 at 8:46
#2
#DisruptTheNight
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contracts suck, trades suck, lines are pretty questionable
Jul 27 at 8:50
#3
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Hedman77
contracts suck, trades suck, lines are pretty questionable


Did you just give an opinion without giving an opinion?

Contracts "suck" .... ?
Jul 27 at 8:52
#4
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: drewjenks
Did you just give an opinion without giving an opinion?

Contracts "suck" .... ?


yeah, as in "not good".

Marner being underpaid, Brassard being underpaid, Hutton being underpaid..
I shouldn't have to spell it out for you but there it is
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Jul 27 at 8:59
#5
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Quoting: Kakko_to_New_York
hell no


Why not?

Demott is arguably better than Deangelo right now (and younger) + Hyman is better than Buch right now + $3,000,000 in cap savings + 3 prospects (a late 1st + 3rd + 3rd).

Otherwise ... New York will either lose players for a minimal return ... or dump bad contracts (and pay the price with sweeteners).
Jul 27 at 9:00
#6
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Quoting: Hedman77
yeah, as in "not good".

Marner being underpaid, Brassard being underpaid, Hutton being underpaid..
I shouldn't have to spell it out for you but there it is


Why aren't Hutton or Brassard signed yet?

What do you think Marner is worth? $12,500,000?

He's worth more than Kucherov? .... LOL.
Jul 27 at 9:01
#7
Cale 4 Calder
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Why would NYR do that? That's terrible value in return...

Deangelo > Dermott
Buchnevich > Hyman

3 random players isn't going to make up for the difference.

You also underpaid a bunch of free agents
Jul 27 at 9:02
#8
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: drewjenks
Why aren't Hutton or Brassard signed yet?

What do you think Marner is worth? $12,500,000? .... LOL.


You can think up ridiculous numbers to make weak arguments all you want.
Ironically that number is probably more likely than what you came up with in the actual post, since everyone not living under a rock knows he wants more than 11
Jul 27 at 9:02
#9
Thread Starter
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Quoting: moli92
Why would NYR do that? That's terrible value in return...

Deangelo > Dermott
Buchnevich > Hyman

3 random players isn't going to make up for the difference.

You also underpaid a bunch of free agents


Oh OK.

I wouldn't be so sure about that ...
Jul 27 at 9:04
#10
Cale 4 Calder
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Quoting: drewjenks
Oh OK.

I wouldn't be so sure about that ...


Why not
Jul 27 at 9:04
#11
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Hedman77
You can think up ridiculous numbers to make weak arguments all you want.
Ironically that number is probably more likely than what you came up with in the actual post, since everyone not living under a rock knows he wants more than 11


OMG an RFA wants a big contract ... he must be getting it ... LMAO.

Everyone knew Nylander wanted $8,500,000 ... he got $6,950,000.

He's not going to be the highest paid winger in the NHL ....
Jul 27 at 9:05
#12
Thread Starter
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Quoting: moli92
Why not


Because you're not correct ....
Jul 27 at 9:06
#13
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Quoting: drewjenks
Why not?

Demott is arguably better than Deangelo right now (and younger) + Hyman is better than Buch right now + $3,000,000 in cap savings + 3 prospects (a late 1st + 3rd + 3rd).

Otherwise ... New York will either lose players for a minimal return ... or dump bad contracts (and pay the price with sweeteners).


I think the Rangers would rather sell low on bottom 6 players than trade 2 players who could breakout this season for pennies on the dollar
Jul 27 at 9:07
#14
Cale 4 Calder
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Quoting: drewjenks
Because you're not correct ....


how lol
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Jul 27 at 9:10
#15
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: drewjenks
Because you're not correct ....


Did you just give an opinion without giving an opinion?
He's "not correct" .... ?
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Jul 27 at 9:11
#16
Thread Starter
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Quoting: moli92
how lol


I'm not your dad.

Correcting your mistakes is not my job.

Improve ... or live with yourself.
Jul 27 at 9:15
#17
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Hedman77
Did you just give an opinion without giving an opinion?
He's "not correct" .... ?


Yes ... he is not correct ... but that's a statement not an opinion ... who raised you?

Think of it like a math problem ... he gave an answer ... you made a joke ... neither of you succeeded ... both of your were incorrect.

r/wooooooosh
Jul 27 at 9:19
#18
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: drewjenks
Yes ... he is not correct ... but that's a statement not an opinion ... who raised you?

Think of it like a math problem ... he gave an answer ... you made a joke ... neither of you succeeded ... both of your were incorrect.

r/wooooooosh


r/wooooshwith4os
r/im14andthisiswoooosh
Jul 27 at 9:21
#19
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Hedman77
r/wooooshwith4os
r/im14andthisiswoooosh


woooosh applaud
Jul 27 at 9:28
#20
Go Bruins Go
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Um. Buchnevich and Deangelo way better than the package you are giving up. Also. All of these trades are bad. Neuvirth I can live with, Brassard and Hutton need more, don’t sign Lovejoy you are just holding out on youth. Marner will easily get 10.5 million.
Also, don’t get snappy at us just because we are pointing out how blatant it is that this is terrible
Jul 27 at 9:36
#21
Jangle29
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Quoting: moli92
Why would NYR do that? That's terrible value in return...

Deangelo > Dermott
Buchnevich > Hyman

3 random players isn't going to make up for the difference.

You also underpaid a bunch of free agents


Wrong. Not a GM in the league that would take those two over Hyman and Dermott
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Jul 27 at 9:38
#22
Jangle29
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Quoting: BruinsWillWin2020
Um. Buchnevich and Deangelo way better than the package you are giving up. Also. All of these trades are bad. Neuvirth I can live with, Brassard and Hutton need more, don’t sign Lovejoy you are just holding out on youth. Marner will easily get 10.5 million.
Also, don’t get snappy at us just because we are pointing out how blatant it is that this is terrible


Lol "Marner will easily get 10.5" based on what? The media? Sheep fans all day long
Jul 27 at 9:40
#23
Jangle29
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Quoting: Hedman77
You can think up ridiculous numbers to make weak arguments all you want.
Ironically that number is probably more likely than what you came up with in the actual post, since everyone not living under a rock knows he wants more than 11


And I want 1 billion. Will I get it? No
Jul 27 at 9:41
#24
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: Jangle29
And I want 1 billion. Will I get it? No


that's hilarious but as we've seen with other free agents, it's cleary possible he gets 11+
Jul 27 at 9:41
#25
Nyr_55
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Quoting: Jangle29
Thats a great typical homer comment not realizing how good dermott is. This trade is bad for the leafs, this guy is on glue wanting to do ut

Ik how good Dermott is but he’s not Deangelo
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